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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

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Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
121 (37.6%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.6%)
No
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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 544410 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2720 on: May 15, 2019, 06:39:15 PM »
Why hasn't andrew Wakefield medical license been stripped?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2721 on: May 15, 2019, 06:46:37 PM »
Why hasn't andrew Wakefield medical license been stripped?

It has

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2722 on: May 15, 2019, 06:50:35 PM »
Why hasn't andrew Wakefield medical license been stripped?
I'm pretty sure, that ever since it was revoked in  2010, further revoking is pointless.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2723 on: May 15, 2019, 06:59:58 PM »
Why hasn't andrew Wakefield medical license been stripped?
Lol
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2724 on: May 15, 2019, 07:14:08 PM »
Why hasn't andrew Wakefield medical license been stripped?
As mentioned, it has been. But that doesn't curb his influence in those circles. Aderaba, he gets to claim martyrdom, that he was wrongly persecuted for his righteous crusade, or whatever nonsense they choose to spin it with.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2725 on: May 15, 2019, 07:39:40 PM »
The VIN article lists him as Dr Andrew Wakefield?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2726 on: May 15, 2019, 11:18:19 PM »
The VIN article lists him as Dr Andrew Wakefield?
If your point is that VIN shouldn't have referred to him as such, I agree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield#General_Medical_Council_hearings

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2727 on: May 16, 2019, 12:06:53 AM »
The VIN article lists him as Dr Andrew Wakefield?

As did the advertisement for the event.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2728 on: May 16, 2019, 12:46:25 AM »
Well that's worthless lol
Personally I wouldn't be shocked to find out that antivaxxers forged vaccination records to not have problems getting into school
Unless you're accusing thousands of people of forging docs, it's still in the 95% range even if some are fake.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2729 on: May 16, 2019, 02:03:43 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/nyregion/measles-vaccine-orthodox-jews.html
What a shame! Bashing Mayor De Blazio and hinting he's a "German", and then move on to blame in a public setting illegal immigrants for spreading even worse diseases, deserves being condemned by all Rabunim and public figures. His Rabbi title should also be stripped off.   

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2731 on: May 16, 2019, 09:34:36 AM »
Unless you're accusing thousands of people of forging docs, it's still in the 95% range even if some are fake.
What isn't being accounted for is let's assume the 96% number is correct, that 4% can be spread across 3 small communities or schools, and while the whole flatbush and boro park may vaccinate if a school in crown heights or williamsburg has lower than the herd immunity threshold, then yes frum jews could be to blame for the current outbreak... Also to mention that they can visit orthodox communities out of the country that can spread it to these communities as well.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2735 on: May 22, 2019, 08:56:16 PM »
The enourmess chilul hashem is one thing.

Rav kaminetzky may be a gadol and that's exactly why he has no excuse..

You are making a huge mistake. If He is correct that one should not vaccinate(I am not getting into the debate on if He is right or wrong) then it is not a chilul hashem no matter how much the public decries it.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2736 on: May 22, 2019, 10:03:48 PM »
Since when are Rabbeim not allowed to have a difference of opinion from one another? 
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2737 on: May 22, 2019, 10:24:06 PM »
You are making a huge mistake. If He is correct that one should not vaccinate(I am not getting into the debate on if He is right or wrong) then it is not a chilul hashem no matter how much the public decries it.
So you're saying that rabanim can't make a chilel hashem, no matter what they do???
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2738 on: May 22, 2019, 10:53:10 PM »
So you're saying that rabanim can't make a chilel hashem, no matter what they do???

No, he's saying that doing the right thing is not a chilul hashem (no matter how many people think it's not the right thing)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2739 on: May 22, 2019, 11:05:59 PM »
You are making a huge mistake. If He is correct that one should not vaccinate(I am not getting into the debate on if He is right or wrong) then it is not a chilul hashem no matter how much the public decries it.
The implication of your statement is that if he is not correct, then it is a chillul Hashem, no? ETA: Which, to be clear, I don't think is true.