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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
121 (37.5%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.5%)
No
197 (61%)

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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 567607 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3080 on: February 20, 2023, 08:45:45 PM »
Crown Heights had a well over 90% vax rate.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3081 on: February 20, 2023, 09:00:24 PM »
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3082 on: February 20, 2023, 09:15:06 PM »
Not COVID, regular vaccines
Any numbers for covid vaccines?
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3083 on: February 20, 2023, 10:22:19 PM »
Only because schools mandate them and 90% of parents don't have koiach to fight the system.
OTOH, I do agree with Yehuda57 that anti-vaxe'ers in CH are indeed super vocal.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3084 on: February 20, 2023, 10:30:30 PM »
Vaccine skepticism is more prevalent in the Jewish community than in the broader population, this was true before COVID and is true now, and was reflected on DDF by frum skeptics espousing their skepticism on DDF, but has nothing to do with DDF per se.


It is a sad day when the idea that maybe natural immunity is as effective as a vaccine became a conspiracy theory.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3085 on: February 21, 2023, 04:34:25 AM »
Only because schools mandate them and 90% of parents don't have koiach to fight the system.
OTOH, I do agree with Yehuda57 that anti-vaxe'ers everywhere are indeed super vocal.
FTFY.
We have them here, too. The whole neighborhood has three altogether, and they make more noise than the vaxxers and certainly more than the "take it case-by-case" types.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3086 on: February 21, 2023, 07:28:15 AM »
Only because schools mandate them and 90% of parents don't have koiach to fight the system.
OTOH, I do agree with Yehuda57 that anti-vaxe'ers in CH are indeed super vocal.

What koach did anyone need to fight? Pre measles outbreak there was no enforcement.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3087 on: February 21, 2023, 04:00:17 PM »
What koach did anyone need to fight? Pre measles outbreak there was no enforcement.
correct, and then most parents only did the  few vaccines that the CH doctors would recommend, which were some, but not all. (would that still give then 90% number?? dunno)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3088 on: February 26, 2023, 07:33:55 AM »
correct, and then most parents only did the  few vaccines that the CH doctors would recommend, which were some, but not all. (would that still give then 90% number?? dunno)

Which CH doctor recommended not taking all childhood vaccines?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3092 on: June 26, 2023, 10:52:15 AM »
There's this problem with debating ANYBODY these days, I've found.




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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3093 on: July 25, 2023, 05:28:57 AM »
Randall Munroe's opinion on the COVID vax.


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Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3095 on: May 20, 2024, 05:52:39 PM »
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Someone was just recently telling me that they're nervous about having more kids because they don't want the babies (too young to vaccinate) catching serious diseases due to loss of herd immunity.

(This is not an opening to have a emunah/bitachon/pru urevu halachic discussion.)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3096 on: May 20, 2024, 07:33:14 PM »
Can we blame the sudden drop on covid vaccine shenanigans?
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3097 on: May 20, 2024, 07:35:11 PM »
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There's a lack of family doctors in Canada. It's only gotten worse since covid.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3098 on: May 20, 2024, 07:44:14 PM »
There's a lack of family doctors in Canada. It's only gotten worse since covid.
Yup. Big problem here.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3099 on: May 20, 2024, 07:53:29 PM »
Can we blame the sudden drop on covid vaccine shenanigans?
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Before Covid I was fully (blindlyÖ.) pro vaccination (the system). Once Covid started everything changed. From ignoring natural immunity to forcing people to take unverified vaccines that in many cases turned out to be unsafe (AstraZeneca etc.) I was completely turned off. My sonís school literally forced me to have him up to date with vaccinations with threats of suspension. Oh well.

ETA: Iím not an antivaxxer nor intend to be. Iím just not confident in vaccines anymore.
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