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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3160 on: July 17, 2024, 01:27:50 PM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 17, 2024, 11:27:09 AM
(I know plural of anecdote is not data)
Just asking a question... for the anti-vaxers out there...

So my 4 year old wasn't vaxed. for anything. (why, is a long story...). Totally healthy in every way.
Had chicken pox a month ago. (which I prob wouldn't have vaxed for in any case...)
Now he has ITP, which is an autoimmune response to the virus, where the immune system attacks the body, specificaly the platelets.
He was admited to the hospital on friday night with basicaly 0 platelets in his body.
Why do you not consider "stories" like this at all in your view of the issue?
#justasking

Refuah sheleima.

Antivaxxers: “Must’ve been caused by the vacccines he didn’t get.”
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3161 on: July 17, 2024, 01:44:13 PM »
Quote from: AsherO on July 17, 2024, 01:27:50 PM
Refuah sheleima.

Antivaxxers: “Must’ve been caused by the vacccines he didn’t get.”
No, by being around Vaxxers. Duh.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3162 on: July 17, 2024, 04:37:47 PM »
Quote from: yelped on July 17, 2024, 12:50:09 PM
Refuah Sheleima!

That must have been a scary experience.

Quite scary to find dozens of bruises on a child so small, and thoughts immediately go to The Machla...
He's still hospitalised, though we've moved to Hadassa.
They want to make 1000% sure that IPT is the only reason, and something else isn't hiding under it, so they're running a hugh battery of tests (shockingly, US style, no waiting 6 months for a CT). Hopefully tommorow we should have a meeting with the team and they'll have some conclusions...
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3163 on: July 17, 2024, 07:37:56 PM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 17, 2024, 04:37:47 PM
Quite scary to find dozens of bruises on a child so small, and thoughts immediately go to The Machla...
He's still hospitalised, though we've moved to Hadassa.
They want to make 1000% sure that IPT is the only reason, and something else isn't hiding under it, so they're running a hugh battery of tests (shockingly, US style, no waiting 6 months for a CT). Hopefully tommorow we should have a meeting with the team and they'll have some conclusions...
stock up with candies and chocolates, they help out alot
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3164 on: July 17, 2024, 08:06:57 PM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 17, 2024, 04:37:47 PM
Quite scary to find dozens of bruises on a child so small, and thoughts immediately go to The Machla...
He's still hospitalised, though we've moved to Hadassa.
They want to make 1000% sure that IPT is the only reason, and something else isn't hiding under it, so they're running a hugh battery of tests (shockingly, US style, no waiting 6 months for a CT). Hopefully tommorow we should have a meeting with the team and they'll have some conclusions...
Refuah Shelaima Bekarov.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3165 on: July 18, 2024, 04:11:13 AM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 17, 2024, 04:37:47 PM
Quite scary to find dozens of bruises on a child so small, and thoughts immediately go to The Machla...
He's still hospitalised, though we've moved to Hadassa.
They want to make 1000% sure that IPT is the only reason, and something else isn't hiding under it, so they're running a hugh battery of tests (shockingly, US style, no waiting 6 months for a CT). Hopefully tommorow we should have a meeting with the team and they'll have some conclusions...
1. Refuah shleima.
2. It's not shocking. The big hospitals in Israel are good at things that have urgency, and especially related to Peds or otherwise healthy people. Outpatient and things that are (wrongly or rightly) not perceived as urgent is where the wait lands.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3166 on: July 21, 2024, 06:32:29 PM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 17, 2024, 04:37:47 PM
Quite scary to find dozens of bruises on a child so small, and thoughts immediately go to The Machla...
He's still hospitalised, though we've moved to Hadassa.
They want to make 1000% sure that IPT is the only reason, and something else isn't hiding under it, so they're running a hugh battery of tests (shockingly, US style, no waiting 6 months for a CT). Hopefully tommorow we should have a meeting with the team and they'll have some conclusions...
How is he?
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3167 on: July 22, 2024, 04:21:41 AM »
Quote from: S209 on July 21, 2024, 06:32:29 PM
How is he?

Released on Friday B"H. Platelets up to 46. (46x what he had before, but still low)
Off the steroids they were giving him. But told not to go to school at least till he sees the hematologist on thursday... (still worried about clotting + suppressed immune system from the steroids)
Loving all the Abba and Mama time he's getting.

(My 3 yr old is getting a little jealous... creating all sorts of imaginary symptoms to see if we'll take her to the Beit Cholim too... ;D)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #3168 on: July 22, 2024, 11:36:13 AM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 17, 2024, 11:27:09 AM
(I know plural of anecdote is not data)
Just asking a question... for the anti-vaxers out there...

So my 4 year old wasn't vaxed. for anything. (why, is a long story...). Totally healthy in every way.
Had chicken pox a month ago. (which I prob wouldn't have vaxed for in any case...)
Now he has ITP, which is an autoimmune response to the virus, where the immune system attacks the body, specificaly the platelets.
He was admited to the hospital on friday night with basicaly 0 platelets in his body.
Why do you not consider "stories" like this at all in your view of the issue?
#justasking
Refuah Sheleima.

Although not as scary as yours, we also had a chicken pox incident.

My son had just reached 1 year and we had not given the vaccine yet and he got c. pox.

It got infected and he was in the hospital for a week getting antibiotics.
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