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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
115 (37.7%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.6%)
No
185 (60.7%)

Total Members Voted: 304

Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 263018 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #600 on: March 21, 2014, 01:30:10 PM »
Um, more like a lawyer, but ya....
He's like a lawyer that dates two girls at once?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #601 on: March 21, 2014, 02:59:00 PM »
You're like the guy dating two girls at once...Trying to figure out which one will be the "winner". Put yourself out there and pick a team.

I'm picking both.

I think the pro-vacciners are clearly correct, but they overstate their argument.

I think in doing so, they hurt their own cause by giving the other side ammunition, since they can clearly see they are being lied to.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #602 on: March 21, 2014, 04:06:14 PM »
I'm picking both.

I think the pro-vacciners are clearly correct, but they overstate their argument.

I think in doing so, they hurt their own cause by giving the other side ammunition, since they can clearly see they are being lied to.
which part of the argument is overstated. What's the "lie"?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #603 on: March 21, 2014, 04:14:25 PM »
which part of the argument is overstated. What's the "lie"?

We've been over this.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #604 on: March 21, 2014, 04:21:37 PM »
We've been over this.
This is DDF, lets do it again!  :P

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #605 on: March 21, 2014, 04:31:32 PM »
This is DDF, lets do it again!  :P

churnbabychurn!

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #606 on: March 21, 2014, 05:04:15 PM »
I'm picking both.

I think the pro-vacciners are clearly correct, but they overstate their argument.

I think in doing so, they hurt their own cause by giving the other side ammunition, since they can clearly see they are being lied to.
Wow, was that a serious comment from henche? I'm impressed! Yes, agreed. I feel like 90% of active members on this thread are on a similar page.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #607 on: March 22, 2014, 09:39:55 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #608 on: March 22, 2014, 09:46:33 PM »
http://jennymccarthybodycount.com

There's a bill board near my house that claims 40k americans were killed by assault rifles in the past year.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #609 on: March 22, 2014, 11:31:43 PM »
There's a bill board near my house that claims 40k americans were killed by assault rifles in the past year.
Your point being?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #610 on: March 23, 2014, 12:35:37 AM »
Your point being?

That you shouldn't believe numbers provided to you by people with an agenda.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #611 on: March 23, 2014, 11:29:02 PM »
That you shouldn't believe numbers provided to you by people with an agenda.

If you click the bill board, does it give a source for every death like this web site does? Hmm? Didn't think so. ..

Click around the site abit. I didn't link it here intending to end all argument about vaccines. Those that don't want to be cured will never be convinced.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #612 on: March 24, 2014, 12:28:59 AM »
http://jennymccarthybodycount.com
As one of the links in this link is the current vaccine schedule, I am curious if... Anyone know why no vaccines between ages 5-10? (As 61% of ppl polled here so far don't get flu vax yearly - the current schedule has none for 6 years straight.)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #613 on: March 24, 2014, 06:29:33 AM »
As one of the links in this link is the current vaccine schedule, I am curious if... Anyone know why no vaccines between ages 5-10? (As 61% of ppl polled here so far don't get flu vax yearly - the current schedule has none for 6 years straight.)
Generally the vaccines are given at the earliest time that it is considered safe and effective in order to prevent the risk of contracting a given disease. Once that is the case, there is no need for further vaccination until the originals start to where off and a booster is needed. Not sure what the connection is with the flu vaccine you reference as we've established they are very different examples.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #614 on: March 24, 2014, 08:01:13 AM »
If you click the bill board, does it give a source for every death like this web site does? Hmm? Didn't think so. ..

Click around the site abit. I didn't link it here intending to end all argument about vaccines. Those that don't want to be cured will never be convinced.

No, but my billboard people probably do make silly assumptions like assuming that every reported case of someone dying from the flu would have been prevented by the vaccine.