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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
121 (37.6%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.6%)
No
196 (60.9%)

Total Members Voted: 320

Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 550818 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #680 on: April 02, 2014, 08:34:33 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #681 on: April 02, 2014, 09:02:24 PM »
Vac and no flu for me.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #682 on: April 02, 2014, 10:59:32 PM »
No vac and no flu again this year. How about the rest of you?
Ditto, but I already voted in poll above last year...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #683 on: April 02, 2014, 11:01:04 PM »
If there was an autism vaccine, what would it cause?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #684 on: April 02, 2014, 11:07:34 PM »
If there was an autism vaccine, what would it cause?
Measles Mumps AND Rubella?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #685 on: April 02, 2014, 11:41:18 PM »
I know of 6 individuals who didn't get the shot and DID get the flu.
Did you by any chance also know what their Vitamin D levels were like before they got the flu?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #686 on: April 03, 2014, 12:08:22 AM »
Did you by any chance also know what their Vitamin D levels were like before they got the flu?
they were the same as the rest of the population. Average. You tell me!

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #687 on: April 03, 2014, 12:28:18 AM »
Did you by any chance also know what their Vitamin D levels were like before they got the flu?
How did I know you would pop up with the vitamin D?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #688 on: April 03, 2014, 12:30:41 AM »
Maybe include nursing in the flu poll...
Perhaps those who did not get the flu shot and were nursed as a baby did not get the flu.
(unless they were literally in the same house/classroom as a sneezing/coughing flu patient)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #689 on: April 03, 2014, 12:35:56 AM »
My baby nurses, didn't get the flu shot and got the flu...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #690 on: April 03, 2014, 12:38:35 AM »
My baby nurses, didn't get the flu shot and got the flu...
I see -- Was referring to age 10 and older...

Was she just sick for a long time (a virus), or was she actually medically diagnosed with influenza?
(And - just wondering - is she in a day-care, group setting? Any peers who got it?)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #691 on: April 03, 2014, 12:45:00 AM »
She was sick for a week, the doctor said it was probably the flu though I guess we can't know for sure being that she wasn't tested.
She is not in a daycare and we have no clue where she got from...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #692 on: April 03, 2014, 12:46:09 AM »
they were the same as the rest of the population. Average. You tell me!
If I had to bet on it I'd say they were low (like the rest of the local population, or at least anyone who isn't actively doing something about it)
How did I know you would pop up with the vitamin D?
And to think I almost forgot...
My baby nurses, didn't get the flu shot and got the flu...
Why not?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #693 on: April 03, 2014, 12:54:16 AM »
..Why not?
Because the baby was low risk. She probably just had a typical one-week virus;
Plus the shot wouldn't have helped that anyway.
(IMO, I think if it was really the flu at that age, with throwing up and dehydration, then she'd be hospitalized for a little while...)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #694 on: April 03, 2014, 01:02:45 AM »
One day when you have extra time on your hands go through the back and forth on this thread until now... I wasn't serious...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #695 on: April 03, 2014, 01:07:37 AM »
One day when you have extra time on your hands go through the back and forth on this thread until now... I wasn't serious...
OK - Good.. I've seen bits and pieces of this thread and
I know that there is TONS of pressure to inject everyone for everything - regardless of age...
Big posters outside Rite-Aid and CVS as if they are giving out cotton candy.

Most injections are smart --- Some are not. Knowledge and Timing are crucial...
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #696 on: April 03, 2014, 07:40:48 AM »
OK - Good.. I've seen bits and pieces of this thread and
I know that there is TONS of pressure to inject everyone for everything - regardless of age...
Big posters outside Rite-Aid and CVS as if they are giving out cotton candy.

Most injections are smart --- Some are not. Knowledge and Timing are crucial...
Add 1 to the "people who don't believe that there is a grand conspiracy but can still use their brain" category.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #697 on: April 03, 2014, 07:47:00 AM »
Why not?
Not because we have anything against it, we just never got around to it, we were really busy with personal matters in the beginning of the year.
Don't worry I believe this is the last time my wife will let the kids miss the flu shot...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #698 on: April 03, 2014, 07:48:04 AM »
AAP said in honor of April fool - autistic kids have the same amount of vaccines like  the rest that is their "proof" that vax did NOT cause autism

So 9 healthy guys smoking a daily pack  is proof that the 10th smoker who dropped dead @ 50 had zero connection to smoking

A survey was done in NY NJ frum community the difference in speed of child development & amount of ear infections is UN-comparable (212-444-1900-6-4-2)
Actually if autistic kids are vaccinated in equal proportion to non-autistic kids that would be pretty good evidence that vaccines are not linked to autism.

The 10th guy got hit by a train because of his ear infection. I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say with your second and third thoughts.

I can't believe I'm still replying to this nonsense... I just can't fathom that people can be so illogical.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #699 on: April 03, 2014, 07:54:04 AM »
No vac and no flu again this year. How about the rest of you?
I should add that 3 in our family had the shot and three did not. Everyone was flu free this year. So there you have it proof positive it does not matter if you get the shot or not.  :)
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