Vaccine Discussion Master Thread

[henche]

Stop hocking with these money hungry doctors. Ask a lawyer.

[TimT]

Did you bother to follow the congressional hearing in NOV 2012  ?

Was that the same one as the search for alien life hearing ?

[zh cohen]

http://www.drpalevsky.com/about.asp this NYC MD understands that polio vaccine is based on hype

pediatrician

http://drsuzanne.net/dr-suzanne-humphries-vaccines-vaccination/
A nephrologist (kidney Dr)

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
A neurosurgeon

http://drtenpenny.com/
An Osteopath

I'm noticing a common denominator. None of these Doctors are any more qualified regarding vaccines than your local pediatrician...

[aygart]

How many hours did you spend in med school studying vaccines ?

Come on cough up the truth

how much reading of scientific papers and studying of statistics have you done? They do not read like a book. Just reading the abstract will often leave you with a wrong impression of the content and result. This will be compounded if you do not fully understand all of the terms and the basic structure of the paper. You mentioned some statistics which may or may not show a meaningful correlation. The writers if the paper used ANOVA. Is that the right formula to use? I am not a doctor, but was able to poke a hole in their methodology which you have had difficulty answering. A doctor may not have spent much time actually studying vaccines, but would be best equipped to understand the available research as well as how to get reliable information on something which is not his expertise.

[DH Data Recovery]

Ooh I wan't in on this fun..

So, the idea here is that Cancer and the likes which are "newer" diseases because we now have facts and research - are caused by vaccines and that's why ppl didn't die from them 75 years ago, and the reason ppl only lived tilll 60 was because some other reason having nothing to do with widespread disease... Sure,
The name Think.Twice sounds like you want ppl to think for themselves but the truth is you have a very clear agenda here.

[TimT]

Ooh I wan't in on this fun..

So, the idea here is that Cancer and the likes which are "newer" diseases because we now have facts and research - are caused by vaccines and that's why ppl didn't die from them 75 years ago, and the reason ppl only lived tilll 60 was because some other reason having nothing to do with widespread disease... Sure,
The name Think.Twice sounds like you want ppl to think for themselves but the truth is you have a very clear agenda here.

Sounds like you got it all in a nutshell

[jj1000]

http://www.drpalevsky.com/about.asp this NY. MD understands that polio vaccine is based on hype

http://drsuzanne.net/dr-suzanne-humphries-vaccines-vaccination/

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/

http://drtenpenny.com/

75 years ago some nation believed they had the right to decide who can share the air & who should be gassed to death

Shame on you 

If you are suggesting that you would never have wanted the polio vaccine to have been made you are as bad or worse than the Nazi's. Polio has killed more people than the Nazis and the vaccine stopped that.

My grandfather worked on the polio vaccine that was paralyzing or killing over 500,000 people anually in the 40's and 50's. Since the vaccine has been globally distributed those aren't numbers we can even comprehend for polio. If you would have wanted to stop my grandfather's amazing work in retrospect you would be better off not breathing my air than stopping one of the greatest inventions in the history of mankind.

Please stop spewing garbage. It's disturbing anyone can be so blind to say the polio vaccine shouldn't have been made .

[CountValentine]

If you are suggesting that you would never have wanted the polio vaccine to have been made you are as bad or worse than the Nazi's. Polio has killed more people than the Nazis and the vaccine stopped that.

My grandfather worked on the polio vaccine that was paralyzing or killing over 500,000 people anually in the 40's and 50's. Since the vaccine has been globally distributed those aren't numbers we can even comprehend for polio. If you would have wanted to stop my grandfather's amazing work in retrospect you would be better off not breathing my air than stopping one of the greatest inventions in the history of mankind.

Please stop spewing garbage. It's disturbing anyone can be so blind to say the polio vaccine shouldn't have been made .

We should follow this members advice. 

Thank you for contributing, please don't waste your time with think twice, he speaks and argues like a forum troll.

[Freddie]

I'm new to this thread but has anybody brought up that vaccines cause autism?

[Saver2000]

I'm new to this thread but has anybody brought up that vaccines cause autism?

You must be joking. 

[Freddie]

You must be joking.

You mean it doesn't cause autism? Yippee!

[CountValentine]

I'm new to this thread but has anybody brought up that vaccines cause autism?

I am the one who throws fuel on the fire and I am damn good at it. Don't try and take my job. 

[zh cohen]

You mean it doesn't cause autism? Yippee!

It's organic food that causes autism... http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24137.msg704510#msg704510

[BBPAPA]

How many hours did you spend in med school studying vaccines ?

Come on cough up the truth

Last Dance for you and I AM OUT OF HERE!!

Have you ever seen anyone DIE from a vaccine preventable illness?

I have------wouldn't you want to do something about it if you could?

That's my agenda----

What's yours?  Conspiracies behind every corner?  Aliens in our midst?

Vaccine mfgs making money on lies?  People dying or maimed  daily from Vaccines?

I'm surprised you can get out of bed each morning and drink your coffee--how can you? (must have some poison  or addiictive chemical in it)
Can't eat meat/ chicken  cause it has hormones-----fish, no -that has mercury and it's in many vaccines as well---milk -again with those hormones
water--can't drink that- has lead and chemicals from power plants or other waste products from factories or perhaps untreated sewage.
bread---oh that dreaded gluten

OK--maybe you can take a nice walk in the sun----no, no -sun causes skin Cancer---put on sun screen---oh no---more chemicals touching and invading your body
Maybe take a nice drive somewhere--but what about exposure to air pollution and Heaven forbid you might have to pump gas and inhale gasoline fumes

Maybe take a flight to Israel----oh no, on the plane you'd be exposed to so much radiation and the jet fuel-  and all the sun in Israel? How much radiation can one take?

OK--now I understand -no food or water--stay in a dark room where no one can harm you except you'd be exposed to radiation from your electrical products- ok, so no radio, no refrigeration-you wouldn't need it anyway since you can't eat the food
I wouldn't dare mention TV  --oh no-that would be worse than any vaccine

Life is as simple or as difficult as you make it---evidently, you want to make difficult for yourself---Just don't take anyone else down into your quagmire.

You probably should take a trip to an undeveloped country and see the ravages of poor sanitation, illness and hunger--Maybe a DDFer would use their points
and book that one way ticket for you

Maybe only then you can wake up and smell the coffee and say HMM.........GOOD.

Hey- shout out to jj1000 -can't you put a stop to all of this??  Before someone gets harmed?

[BBPAPA]

If you are suggesting that you would never have wanted the polio vaccine to have been made you are as bad or worse than the Nazi's. Polio has killed more people than the Nazis and the vaccine stopped that.

My grandfather worked on the polio vaccine that was paralyzing or killing over 500,000 people anually in the 40's and 50's. Since the vaccine has been globally distributed those aren't numbers we can even comprehend for polio. If you would have wanted to stop my grandfather's amazing work in retrospect you would be better off not breathing my air than stopping one of the greatest inventions in the history of mankind.

Please stop spewing garbage. It's disturbing anyone can be so blind to say the polio vaccine shouldn't have been made .

I am quite happy to hear your story- I am sure you are extremely proud of your grandfather's accomplishments as I am.

If we could only be zocheh to perform such miracles in our time but at the very least we should protect your grandfather's achievements.

As a mod, can't you put a stop to this?   Harm could come to children as result of these INNOCENT?? discussions.    LO TETAIN MICHSHOL

Thank you.

[jaywhy]

Gosh, I thought this thread was contentious before ThinkTwice came around.

[skyguy918]

... Polio has killed more people than the Nazis ...

Not that it changes anything in the equation, and I totally agree with your position, but... source?

[skyguy918]

...So you make a living from fear mongering...

Oh, the irony. 

[Moshe123]

I agree polio vaccine has killed many people & and is a form of genocide

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Moshe123]

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