Author Topic: IS this flight allowed for a jew ? (Read 6600 times)

SuperFlyer · « **on:** January 14, 2013, 03:02:10 PM »

Thanks for replying.

Side incomer · « **Reply #1 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:05:46 PM »

Allowed in terms of?

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #2 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Side incomer on January 14, 2013, 03:05:46 PM

Allowed in terms of?

shabbos

also one is allowed to have only one shabbos per week (7 days)

Yaalili · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:08:52 PM »

Quote from: Side incomer on January 14, 2013, 03:05:46 PM

Allowed in terms of?

That u are leaving on motzei shabbos, once u get over the date line u are flying on shabbos, and arrive in Vancouver motzei shabbos. I would say probably not.

SGF · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:13:51 PM »

I would assume not as you will forsure pass the date line while it's still shabbos on the other side.
Though when my brother was there he asked a Rov regarding davening and he was told that until he lands it goes by the place where he left from

Yeki89 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:14:14 PM »

it depends what time you will hit the dateline

Red · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:14:34 PM »

Who said flying on Shabbos is a problem? If you're taking off on Sunday and landing after Shabbos being that you're above 10 tfachim throughout Shabbos, you were never koina a shvisa so there shouldn't be any tchum issue. Furthermore the plane is owned and operated by goyim and I doubt rov of the flight are yidden, so that would make it muttar to be on board on Shabbos.

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #7 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:17:20 PM »

Quote from: Red on January 14, 2013, 03:14:34 PM

Who said flying on Shabbos is a problem? If you're taking off on Sunday and landing after Shabbos being that you're above 10 tfachim throughout Shabbos, you were never koina a shvisa so there shouldn't be any tchum issue. Furthermore the plane is owned and operated by goyim and I doubt rov of the flight are yidden, so that would make it muttar to be on board on Shabbos.

probably correct, however...

Quote from: SuperFlyer on January 14, 2013, 03:07:30 PM

also one is allowed to have only one shabbos per week (7 days)

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #8 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:18:12 PM »

Quote from: Yeki89 on January 14, 2013, 03:14:14 PM

it depends what time you will hit the dateline

Quote from: SGF on January 14, 2013, 03:13:51 PM

I would assume not as you will forsure pass the date line while it's still shabbos on the other side.

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:18:50 PM »

Quote from: SGF on January 14, 2013, 03:13:51 PM

Though when my brother was there he asked a Rov regarding davening and he was told that until he lands it goes by the place where he left from

I've heard based on where you are flying to (for a fast)

SGF · « **Reply #10 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:20:17 PM »

Quote from: Yeki89 on January 14, 2013, 03:14:14 PM

it depends what time you will hit the dateline

Forsure while it's still shabbos, the date line is a couple hours away from YVR

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #11 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:24:32 PM »

Its for a chabad, I know they have travel-leniencies.

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:24:55 PM »

Quote from: SuperFlyer on January 14, 2013, 03:24:32 PM

Its for a chabad, I know they have travel-leniencies.

+ they get angry when you say that. ;-)

SGF · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:27:42 PM »

Quote from: Red on January 14, 2013, 03:14:34 PM

Who said flying on Shabbos is a problem? If you're taking off on Sunday and landing after Shabbos being that you're above 10 tfachim throughout Shabbos, you were never koina a shvisa so there shouldn't be any tchum issue. Furthermore the plane is owned and operated by goyim and I doubt rov of the flight are yidden, so that would make it muttar to be on board on Shabbos.

The question is can he play a game on his cellphone, turn on the overhead light or does he have to make kidush?