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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1760 on: July 26, 2018, 08:20:02 AM »
Bussiness gets anything different or same ?

You'll get a better meal than standard coach. It'll be Borenstein and something similar to what I received in F on AA. You can find the details here.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1761 on: July 26, 2018, 12:44:32 PM »
What can I expect on united J Newark-Rome and then on SQ J FRA-JFK
Are one or both junk? Should i BYOK? If I do, will the FAs heat it up for me?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1762 on: July 26, 2018, 12:50:01 PM »
Should i BYOK? If I do, will the FAs heat it up for me?
Always.
Most likely.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1763 on: July 26, 2018, 12:57:40 PM »
Always.
Most likely.
Id BYOK for outbound but not return

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1764 on: July 26, 2018, 12:58:40 PM »
Id BYOK for outbound but not return
I've never regretted a BYOK.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1765 on: July 26, 2018, 12:59:24 PM »
I've never regretted a BYOK.
I wouldn’t want to worry about getting one during my trip or keeping it around the entire trip. On the outbound it’s easier to bring.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1766 on: July 26, 2018, 12:59:56 PM »
I've never regretted a BYOK.
You’ve had them refuse to heat it at least once. Maybe not in europe

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1767 on: July 26, 2018, 01:00:11 PM »
I wouldn’t want to worry about getting one during my trip or keeping it around the entire trip. On the outbound it’s easier to bring.
Who said anything about bringing it with you the entire time??
Have any restaurant double foil wrap a meal.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1768 on: July 26, 2018, 01:00:37 PM »
You’ve had them refuse to heat it at least once. Maybe not in europe
Only CX. Can still eat it not warmed up. Still better than most KSMLs.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1769 on: July 26, 2018, 01:01:12 PM »
Who said anything about bringing it with you the entire time??
Have any restaurant double foil wrap a meal.
I included that. Still think it isn’t worth getting on the trip.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1770 on: July 26, 2018, 01:01:47 PM »
What can I expect on SQ J FRA-JFK

Most likely Hermolis.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1771 on: July 26, 2018, 01:09:55 PM »
Most likely Hermolis.
Not sohars?
Hermolis is garbage?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1772 on: July 26, 2018, 01:11:58 PM »
Not sohars?
Hermolis is garbage?
Hermolis is fine. Not as good as ex lhr but much better than borenstein or stogel. I like it better than sohar but not by much.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1773 on: July 26, 2018, 01:21:38 PM »
Not sohars?

I got Hermolis on SQ from FRA to SIN.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1774 on: July 26, 2018, 01:22:50 PM »
I got Hermolis on SQ from FRA to SIN.
How was it?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1776 on: July 26, 2018, 01:30:07 PM »
See post #1614 upthread - https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510.msg1951731#msg1951731

Not a fan of fish, didn’t have the mains.
Looks like a BYOK situation to me.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1777 on: July 26, 2018, 01:39:11 PM »
Looks like a BYOK situation to me.
Really?

I'm not denying that one should always have backup BYOK in case meals aren't loaded, but if I were to know for certain that this is what I would get, even if I decided to pass on all the mains, I would definitely prefer this to the potential mess and hassle involved in BYOK (I wouldn't bother with anything that requires heating for BYOK).
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1778 on: July 26, 2018, 01:40:43 PM »
I don't find BYOK to be a hassle. I ask the last restaurant I go to double wrap something and ask the FA to warm it up.

Aside from bad food, it also protects against the 20% of the time when there's no KSML at all.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1779 on: July 26, 2018, 02:40:32 PM »
Looks like a BYOK situation to me.

Meal from FRA to JFK should be breakfast (omelette) while this one was lunch/dinner meal.