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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1940 on: January 09, 2019, 02:24:04 PM »
This may be a stupid question, but when flying in business class, how is the ksml served? If served on china, is that kosher?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1941 on: January 09, 2019, 04:00:34 PM »
I've had some Bangkok meals and some Stogel shelf life meals and while the Bangkok meals may not have been 5 star, they were significantly better than Stogel.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1942 on: January 09, 2019, 04:13:54 PM »
I've had some Bangkok meals and some Stogel shelf life meals and while the Bangkok meals may not have been 5 star, they were significantly better than Stogel.
+1. Not even comparable despite the BKK meals being even worse than US KSMLs.
Wouldn't feed Stogel long life to a dog.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1943 on: January 09, 2019, 05:19:21 PM »
Wouldn't feed Stogel long life to a dog.

ET and A3 don't understand the problem with the "quality"

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1944 on: January 09, 2019, 05:40:23 PM »
I've had some Bangkok meals and some Stogel shelf life meals and while the Bangkok meals may not have been 5 star, they were significantly better than Stogel.
+1. Not even comparable despite the BKK meals being even worse than US KSMLs.
Wouldn't feed Stogel long life to a dog.
So I guess we'll agree to disagree. Not 5 star? Lol. There arent too many things in that meal that you can actually put in your mouth and swallow. 0 stars

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1945 on: January 09, 2019, 05:44:23 PM »
This may be a stupid question, but when flying in business class, how is the ksml served? If served on china, is that kosher?
If theres china, it's wrapped in the meal and is brand new. But just because you are in Business, or even First for that matter, doesn't necessarily mean you will get that. Many times its all plastic.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1946 on: January 09, 2019, 05:50:41 PM »
+1. Not even comparable despite the BKK meals being even worse than US KSMLs.
Wouldn't feed Stogel long life to a dog.

Obviously. Since when do you feed cat food to dogs?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1947 on: January 09, 2019, 07:31:23 PM »
If theres china, it's wrapped in the meal and is brand new. But just because you are in Business, or even First for that matter, doesn't necessarily mean you will get that. Many times its all plastic.

So basically the airline never uses their own China- it comes directly from kosher caterer?

China from airline wouldnít be kosher?

Thank you!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1948 on: January 09, 2019, 07:36:37 PM »
So basically the airline never uses their own China- it comes directly from kosher caterer?

China from airline wouldnít be kosher?

Thank you!
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1949 on: January 09, 2019, 07:41:02 PM »
Mentioned it a few times.

Free upgrade to business on next ticket. They gave him a case number and told him to give it to a CSR after he booked a flight in order to get upgraded. He flew JFK-IST-TLV and back business.
Very nice.  It never hurts to ask. Thanks.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1950 on: January 09, 2019, 07:59:22 PM »
So basically the airline never uses their own China- it comes directly from kosher caterer?

China from airline wouldnít be kosher?

Thank you!
It usually belongs to the airline. The airline provides new dishes to the caterer who plates on it, and afterwards it goes into the regular supply.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1951 on: January 09, 2019, 08:04:21 PM »
How exactly can I confirm where itís coming from and that itís kosher? Do I just ask the fa?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1952 on: January 09, 2019, 08:07:02 PM »
If it's Kosher, it'll be wrapped by the caterer and sealed with a Hechsher.

I'm sure different caterers and different airlines have different arrangements but I think Hermolis gets new BA dishes and cutlery with BA branding shipped to them and they package it in their BA meals. After you've eaten it just goes back into the airlines main kitchens.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1953 on: January 09, 2019, 08:14:29 PM »
How exactly can I confirm where itís coming from and that itís kosher? Do I just ask the fa?
The food is already plated on it and sealed

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1954 on: January 11, 2019, 09:20:57 AM »
Airline: AA
Class: J
Route: JFK-MAD
Caterer: Borenstein
Flight date: 01/09/19
Meal in pic: Dinner
The "braised short ribs" main was actually really good
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1955 on: January 11, 2019, 09:22:53 AM »

Airline: AA
Class: J
Route: JFK-MAD
Caterer: Borenstein
Flight date: 01/09/19
Meal in pic: Breakfast
All went straight to the garbage aside from the danishes.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1956 on: January 11, 2019, 09:26:24 AM »
Airline: IB
Class: J
Route: MAD-TLV
Caterer: Rustichelli
Flight date: 01/10/19
Meal in pic: "Snack"

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1957 on: January 11, 2019, 09:27:44 AM »
Airline: IB
Class: J
Route: MAD-TLV
Caterer: Rustichelli
Flight date: 01/10/19
Meal in pic:Dinner
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1958 on: January 14, 2019, 10:25:07 AM »
Has anybody flown EWR-WAW-TLV lately on Lot Polish Airlines? What are those kosher meals like? Thank you!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1959 on: January 14, 2019, 10:39:28 AM »
If it's Kosher, it'll be wrapped by the caterer and sealed with a Hechsher.

I'm sure different caterers and different airlines have different arrangements but I think Hermolis gets new BA dishes and cutlery with BA branding shipped to them and they package it in their BA meals. After you've eaten it just goes back into the airlines main kitchens.
Same with LH AFAIK.
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