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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2145 on: March 28, 2019, 05:22:13 PM »
How's Swiss Business on the ZSH Scale?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2146 on: March 28, 2019, 05:30:23 PM »
Thanks.

Logged into my PNR on swiss.com and requested that eticket be emailed to me. It shows KSML.
Good to know. I emailed them and they said I have kosher meal, but nothing online said anything. Did this and got PDF that says kosher meal. Thanks.
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #2147 on: March 28, 2019, 05:36:37 PM »
AKA די קראך פון די פיקעל.

It's actually better than that, we're talking fresh, not pickled (though also the pickles have that קראך).

Ex-NYC it's impossible to get not pre-frozen KSML due to the דייטשן ימ"ש aka LSG. (see how we've come almost full circle from where the discussion of the ZSH scale originated...)
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #2148 on: March 28, 2019, 05:41:13 PM »
It's actually better than that, we're talking fresh, not pickled (though also the pickles have that קראך).

No no no... In KJ,

pickle = cucumber
zuerpickle (with the z and in one word): pickle
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #2149 on: March 28, 2019, 05:45:30 PM »
No no no... In KJ,

pickle = cucumber
zuerpickle (with the z and in one word): pickle

Thanks for the education.

Do they know what אן אוגערקע is in KJ (is it still called KJ or is it PT now)?

I'm asking because once I was talking to a bunch of guys in WB and בין הדברים I said א פאר פאלק, and everyone was looking at me with glazed eyes, not knowing what it means, until one guy says: Ah, di meinst a couple.
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #2150 on: March 28, 2019, 06:50:59 PM »
Thanks for the education.

Do they know what אן אוגערקע is in KJ (is it still called KJ or is it PT now)?

I'm asking because once I was talking to a bunch of guys in WB and בין הדברים I said א פאר פאלק, and everyone was looking at me with glazed eyes, not knowing what it means, until one guy says: Ah, di meinst a couple.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2151 on: March 28, 2019, 06:58:34 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2152 on: March 28, 2019, 08:24:15 PM »
I knew I've read this story in the past. https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18685.msg1875142#msg1875142

I guess I need to hang out in Williamsburg a little more often, so I can have fresh stories.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2153 on: March 29, 2019, 08:46:29 AM »
Airline:LH
Class:Y
Route:MUC-TLV
Caterer:Sohar's
Hechsher: Chief Rabbi of Frankfurt
Flight date: 03/28/19
Meal in pics:Dinner
ZSH rating: according to my Israeli seatmate "אני  על המטוס מעשר בבוקר ממיאמי דרך שוויץ, אני מכיר את האוכל הזה וזה לא טוב אבל מה לעשות" seems to fit in the 2-3 zone.

Question is, do we rate Y meals by the same standards as premium class meals, or by what you'd expect from a Y meal?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2154 on: March 29, 2019, 09:11:51 AM »
Same standards. It's a good thing if J/F meals are ranked higher.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2155 on: March 29, 2019, 10:44:22 AM »
AMS-JFK KL J
Amsterdam Rabbinate
Meal was rancid. 
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2156 on: March 29, 2019, 10:51:30 AM »
AMS-JFK KL J
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Meal was rancid.
My Y meal on that flight was fine... They even served warm falafel for the pre-landing snack, which was very good.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2157 on: March 29, 2019, 05:06:34 PM »
Special meals on Elal

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   THE ELAL UNIQUE SPECIAL MEALS NOW APPLICABLE FOR REQUEST IN THESE SYSTEMS ARE :                                                                 
                                                                               
   CNML     CHICKEN MEAL                                                       
   FSML     FISH MEAL                                                           
   GRML     GREEK FASTING FOOD                                                 
   GVML     REGAL GLATT VEGETARIAN                                             
   KCML     STRICLY KOSHER CHILD MEAL                                           
   KFML     SPECIAL KOSHER FISH MEAL                                           
   RFML     REGAL FISH MEAL                                                     
   RGML     REGAL MEAL                                                         
   SKML     STRICLY KOSHER MEAL                                                 
                                                           
  DEADLINES FOR REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING MEALS ON EWR/JFK-TLV FLIGHTS:         
                                                                               
    RFML, RGML, GVML, KFML, SKML AND KCML FOR EWR/JFK-TLV FLIGHTS DEPARTING     
  SUN THRU FRI:  7HOURS                                                         
                                                                               
    RFML, RGML, GVML, KFML, SKML AND KCML FOR EWR/JFK-TLV FLIGHTS DEPARTING     
  SATURDAY:  36HOURS                                                           
                                                                               
  DEADLINE FOR BOOKING SPECIAL MEALS ON YYZ / LAX - TLV FLIGHTS:               
                                                                               
    SKML FOR FLIGHTS DEPARTING SUN THRU FRI:   7HOURS                           
                                                                               
    SKML FOR FLIGHTS DEAPRTING SATURDAY:      36HOURS                           



 CHILD MEALS                                                                   
                                                                               
 THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF CHILDREN'S MEALS ON LY FLIGHTS:                         
   CHML - REGULAR CHILD MEAL                                                   
   KCML - STRICTLY KOSHER CHILD MEAL                                           
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2158 on: March 29, 2019, 05:07:07 PM »
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2159 on: March 29, 2019, 06:23:04 PM »
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It is my understanding that this is considered a reliable Kashrus certification.
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