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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2160 on: March 29, 2019, 06:49:57 PM »
Special meals on Elal

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   THE ELAL UNIQUE SPECIAL MEALS NOW APPLICABLE FOR REQUEST IN THESE SYSTEMS ARE :                                                                 
                                                                               
   CNML     CHICKEN MEAL                                                       
   FSML     FISH MEAL                                                           
   GRML     GREEK FASTING FOOD                                                 
   GVML     REGAL GLATT VEGETARIAN                                             
   KCML     STRICLY KOSHER CHILD MEAL                                           
   KFML     SPECIAL KOSHER FISH MEAL                                           
   RFML     REGAL FISH MEAL                                                     
   RGML     REGAL MEAL                                                         
   SKML     STRICLY KOSHER MEAL                                                 
                                                           
  DEADLINES FOR REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING MEALS ON EWR/JFK-TLV FLIGHTS:         
                                                                               
    RFML, RGML, GVML, KFML, SKML AND KCML FOR EWR/JFK-TLV FLIGHTS DEPARTING     
  SUN THRU FRI:  7HOURS                                                         
                                                                               
    RFML, RGML, GVML, KFML, SKML AND KCML FOR EWR/JFK-TLV FLIGHTS DEPARTING     
  SATURDAY:  36HOURS                                                           
                                                                               
  DEADLINE FOR BOOKING SPECIAL MEALS ON YYZ / LAX - TLV FLIGHTS:               
                                                                               
    SKML FOR FLIGHTS DEPARTING SUN THRU FRI:   7HOURS                           
                                                                               
    SKML FOR FLIGHTS DEAPRTING SATURDAY:      36HOURS                           



 CHILD MEALS                                                                   
                                                                               
 THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF CHILDREN'S MEALS ON LY FLIGHTS:                         
   CHML - REGULAR CHILD MEAL                                                   
   KCML - STRICTLY KOSHER CHILD MEAL                                           
Are SKML and RGML the same, just they call it regal ex NYC?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2161 on: March 29, 2019, 06:50:30 PM »
Are SKML and RGML the same, just they call it regal ex NYC?
Correct

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2162 on: March 31, 2019, 09:51:25 AM »
Anyone know what ANZ serve from ORD and from AKL?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2163 on: April 01, 2019, 01:54:14 AM »
Anyone know what ANZ serve from ORD and from AKL?

From AKL - due to striict local quarantine laws these are produced locally.

http://www.greysavedeli.co.nz/airline-meals.html


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2164 on: April 01, 2019, 08:38:37 AM »
Yes. Ahdut Kosher is out of Buenos Aires and is an excellent hashgacha.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2165 on: April 01, 2019, 04:50:03 PM »
from OS system info

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  KSML..KOSHER MEAL-SEE >MS090  FOR INFO VIE/TLV/JFK                           
        (PREPARED STRICTLY ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE TALMUD                 
        BY AN AUTHORISED KOSHER CATERER AND BROUGHT ON BOARD                   
        FULLY SEALED)                                                           

  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON KOSHER MEALS                    *L*                 
  -------------------------------------- LAST UPDT 26NOV07/PP                   
                                                                               
  KSML AVAILABLE FROM VIE - STANDARD IS A FRESH MEAL                           
                            FROM COMPANY BERNHOLZ.                             
                            LAST MINUTE ORDERS *LONG LIFE*                     
                            KSML BOXES FROM LANXNER.                           
                                                                               
                            KSML-SEFARDIM *** NOT *** AVAILABLE                 

                                                                               
  KSML AVAILABLE FROM TLV - STANDARD IS A FRESH MEAL.                           
                            ON REQUEST *BADATZ*, WHICH IS A                     
                            STRICT KOSHER, CAN BE ORDERED.                     



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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2166 on: April 01, 2019, 04:51:59 PM »
from LH system

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---------------------------------------------------------------------------   
 KSML :KOSHER MEAL                        KOSHER MAHLZEIT                       
       STRICT KOSHER PREPARATION UNDER    UNTER AUFSICHT EINES RABBINATS       
       SUPERVISION OF A RABBINATE         STRENG KOSHER ZUBEREITET             
       (OTHER KOSHER MEALS SUCH AS        (ANDERE KOSHER-SONDERESSEN, WIE       
       GLATT KOSHER OR KSML/VGML          GLATT ODER KSML/VGML SIND NICHT       
       ARE NOT AVAILABLE)                 DARSTELLBAR)                         

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2167 on: April 01, 2019, 04:54:19 PM »
from LX system info

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* KSML *                                                                       
 KOSHER MEAL                                                                   
 PRODUCED BY KOSHER CATERERS UNDER RABBINICAL SUPERVISION                       
                                                                               
 KOSHER MEAL WITH FISH ONLY:      >SSR SPML KSML-FISH<                         
 KOSHER MEAL VEGETARIAN:          >SSR SPML KSML-VGML<                         
 KOSHER FOR ULTRA-ORTHODOX COMM.: >SSR SPML KSML-GLATT<                         
                                                                               
                                                                               
 NOTE:                                                                         
 TLV-ZRH-TLV: ON LX OPS FLTS KSML-GLATT IS THE STANARD IN                       
 BUSINESS AND ECONOMY CLASS.                                                   
                                                                               
 ** LAST MINUTE KSML IN Y-CL WILL NOT BE GLATT DUE TO DELIVERY                 
    OF KSML-GLATT IS 1DAY BEFORE DEPARTURE.                                     
                                                                               
 ** DURING PASS OVER CERTAIN SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS                             
    COME INTO FORCE SINCE CATERERS REMAIN CLOSED IN ISRAEL.                     
    ORDERING OF KSML-GLATT/KSML ON THOSE DATES IS NOT POSSIBLE.                 
                                                                               
 ** ON LX*/LY OPERATED CODESHARE FLTS: THE ULTRA ORTHODOX KSML                 
    MUST BE REQUESTED WITH ML.SKML                                             
    SKML MUST BE ORDERED AHEAD OF FLT                                           

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2168 on: April 01, 2019, 05:00:11 PM »
On Ukraine short haul flights you can pre-order a Kosher Meal for 16 Euro

https://www.flyuia.com/us/en/services/pre-order-meal#special-dishes

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SPECIAL KOSHER MEALS - 15EUR - KMML

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2169 on: April 01, 2019, 05:00:30 PM »
from OS system info

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  KSML..KOSHER MEAL-SEE >MS090  FOR INFO VIE/TLV/JFK                           
        (PREPARED STRICTLY ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE TALMUD                 
        BY AN AUTHORISED KOSHER CATERER AND BROUGHT ON BOARD                   
        FULLY SEALED)                                                           

  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON KOSHER MEALS                    *L*                 
  -------------------------------------- LAST UPDT 26NOV07/PP                   
                                                                               
  KSML AVAILABLE FROM VIE - STANDARD IS A FRESH MEAL                           
                            FROM COMPANY BERNHOLZ.                             
                            LAST MINUTE ORDERS *LONG LIFE*                     
                            KSML BOXES FROM LANXNER.                           
                                                                               
                            KSML-SEFARDIM *** NOT *** AVAILABLE                 

                                                                               
  KSML AVAILABLE FROM TLV - STANDARD IS A FRESH MEAL.                           
                            ON REQUEST *BADATZ*, WHICH IS A                     
                            STRICT KOSHER, CAN BE ORDERED.                     



Wow. Amazing detailed information. Does this mean that ex-VIE it's not BY according to Beis Yosef? And confirmation that BADATZ can be ordered ex-TLV.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2170 on: April 01, 2019, 05:02:03 PM »
Wow. Amazing detailed information. Does this mean that ex-VIE it's not BY according to Beis Yosef? And confirmation that BADATZ can be ordered ex-TLV.

please note - this info is a few years old

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2171 on: April 01, 2019, 05:12:06 PM »
On Ukraine short haul flights you can pre-order a Kosher Meal for 16 Euro

https://www.flyuia.com/us/en/services/pre-order-meal#special-dishes

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SPECIAL KOSHER MEALS - 15EUR - KMML
It's not worth 16 cents.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2172 on: April 01, 2019, 05:20:14 PM »
It's not worth 16 cents Гривень.
FTFY
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2173 on: April 01, 2019, 08:32:31 PM »
It's not worth 16 cents.
They served me Kosher for pesach a week after pesach
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2174 on: April 01, 2019, 09:06:24 PM »
Wow. Amazing detailed information. Does this mean that ex-VIE it's not BY according to Beis Yosef? And confirmation that BADATZ can be ordered ex-TLV.
Does not necessarily say that, merely states there is no option to request a KSML Sefardim, possibly as it is identical to the standard KSML.

FWIW Vienna has a Sephardich Hashgacha besides for the mainstream Rabbi Schwartz.
Purpose > Pleasure