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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2600 on: February 15, 2022, 08:58:48 AM »
Airline and class: TK J
Route: JFK - IST
Caterer: Regal / Borenstein
Flight date: Feb 8 2022
Meal in pics: Dinner
ZSH Scale: 6
Peas were not edible, apart from that everything else was.. ok.







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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2601 on: February 15, 2022, 09:01:43 AM »
Airline and class: TK J
Route: JFK - IST
Caterer: Regal / Borenstein
Flight date: Feb 8 2022
Meal in pics: Breakfast
ZSH Scale: 5
Omelette wasn't great (although better then the Hamasbia one on my flight in), everything else was ok (didn't touch the stuff under the lox)






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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2602 on: February 15, 2022, 09:12:58 AM »
Airline and class: TK J
Route: IST - TLV
Caterer: La Casa (TK)
Flight date: Feb 8 2022
Meal in pics: Breakfast
ZSH Scale: 8
Thank G-d, no omelette! Hot meal was a small cheese quiche (delicious) and a small piece of rubbery lukshen kugel (not as delicious).
Everything else was quite yummy, fruit and veg were very fresh, and even I had the cream cheese left over from my previous breakfast for the crackers...





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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2603 on: February 15, 2022, 09:28:59 AM »
Know some one who just had a El al SKML from LAX. vey dubious- name of mashgiach whited out, no seal on packaging sandwich with shrink wrap and a SKML sticker is this normal?
My kashrus contact says not recommended.....

LY SKML exLAX has been a problem for some time now.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2604 on: February 15, 2022, 04:10:41 PM »
any ksml in ewr lounges?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2605 on: February 16, 2022, 10:28:18 AM »
Airline and class: TK J
Route: JFK - IST
Caterer: Regal / Borenstein
Flight date: Feb 8 2022
Meal in pics: Dinner
ZSH Scale: 6
Peas were not edible, apart from that everything else was.. ok.






Same ex EWR
Edible but blah

Not sure if there is a difference to coach other than the box. I guess probably also the fish thing with the beans. I had a raw potato with the chicken.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2606 on: February 16, 2022, 10:43:59 AM »
Airline and class: TK J
Route: JFK - IST
Caterer: Regal / Borenstein
Flight date: Feb 8 2022
Meal in pics: Breakfast
ZSH Scale: 5
Omelette wasn't great (although better then the Hamasbia one on my flight in), everything else was ok (didn't touch the stuff under the lox)





Same comment as dinner
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2607 on: February 16, 2022, 10:47:30 AM »
Know some one who just had a El al SKML from LAX. vey dubious- name of mashgiach whited out, no seal on packaging sandwich with shrink wrap and a SKML sticker is this normal?
My kashrus contact says not recommended.....




Why black out the hechsher?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2608 on: February 16, 2022, 10:48:19 AM »
LY SKML exLAX has been a problem for some time now.
Details? Want me to pass anything on?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2609 on: February 16, 2022, 06:03:53 PM »
Why black out the hechsher?
they didn't want to be associated with the name Chayut.... ;)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2610 on: February 16, 2022, 06:52:10 PM »
Details? Want me to pass anything on?
Just that the SKML exTLV is not really special.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2611 on: February 21, 2022, 02:23:52 PM »
Why black out the hechsher?
That is how it came!

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« Reply #2612 on: February 21, 2022, 02:26:27 PM »
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2613 on: February 21, 2022, 02:26:35 PM »
Why black out the hechsher?
Or as Dan always says....."read the post?  ;D

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2614 on: February 21, 2022, 02:30:19 PM »
Details? Want me to pass anything on?
Gonna ask my.kashrus contact for more details, but IIRC it seems like their LaX SKML is a known problem.....

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2615 on: February 22, 2022, 01:32:46 AM »
Why black out the hechsher?
Think I Misunderstood this.... Presumably blacked out hechsher means that said hechsher no longer certifies, and they didn't get a new one yet....

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2616 on: February 22, 2022, 01:38:02 AM »
Think I Misunderstood this.... Presumably blacked out hechsher means that said hechsher no longer certifies, and they didn't get a new one yet....
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2617 on: February 22, 2022, 01:42:31 AM »
The 'Chief Rabbi of El Al' resigned last Sep.

https://www.inn.co.il/news/504193

״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2618 on: February 22, 2022, 01:45:19 AM »
The 'Chief Rabbi of El Al' resigned last Sep.

https://www.inn.co.il/news/504193
non-mehadrin meals have been in a state of limbo ever since.
Question is, what control, if any, did he have over the dishes and ovens (onboard), that there would be a concern now that he's gone

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2619 on: February 22, 2022, 02:23:13 AM »


forgot this pic. unsealed package with a reminder not to eat if package is unsealed....