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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2660 on: May 18, 2022, 05:11:13 PM »
Thanks. Btw What does DTC stand for ?
Due to anything but can be blamed on Covid.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2661 on: May 18, 2022, 07:12:49 PM »
Got a nice kosher for Passover snack, yes with מצה on ITA (Alitalia) today fco-tlv. With a exp. date of March 2023
Just saying

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2662 on: May 22, 2022, 02:49:25 AM »
United, J, BWI - LAX
Frozen but otherwise kind of cool. A little different.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2663 on: May 22, 2022, 07:03:09 AM »
Anyone have any insight which meals are served on Qatar Departing DOH and departing JNB or CPT?
and how about the DOHA lounges?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2664 on: May 22, 2022, 11:59:02 AM »
Had a nice meal in United J from EWR-SFO, catered by Fresno. Pretty decent. Will try to add pictures later.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2665 on: May 22, 2022, 03:02:22 PM »
Does anyone have experience which meals Qatar provide, leaving Amman Cape Town or Johannesburg?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2667 on: May 22, 2022, 09:01:57 PM »
It’s all about the presentation:
it's your fault you look like the men with the big hats

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2668 on: May 23, 2022, 05:33:35 PM »
Delta TLV to JFK in business if I didnt order kosher meal before 24 hours, can I know for sure there will be?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2669 on: May 23, 2022, 08:52:03 PM »
@moko would love your input.
This was AA PHL-LAX. appetizer was freezing cold. The chicken had a single seal, nothing else did or was even taped at all.
The main, which was swapped out on the same tray was heated, no seal at all, and the plastic was punctured to let steam out.
Seemed sketchy all around.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2670 on: May 24, 2022, 12:12:15 PM »
@moko would love your input.
This was AA PHL-LAX. appetizer was freezing cold. The chicken had a single seal, nothing else did or was even taped at all.
The main, which was swapped out on the same tray was heated, no seal at all, and the plastic was punctured to let steam out.
Seemed sketchy all around.
I can't recall ever seeing a hot KSML meal that's in plastic and not foil. Is that hot meal really a KSML or was there a mix up?
Did you ask the FA if it was double wrapped when she got it?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2671 on: May 24, 2022, 12:18:50 PM »
I can't recall ever seeing a hot KSML meal that's in plastic and not foil. Is that hot meal really a KSML or was there a mix up?
Did you ask the FA if it was double wrapped when she got it?
that was my first thought. but look at the 'appetizer', it was exactly the same, no foil, with a sticker. and although it was served freezing cold it was clearly meant to be heated in the plastic.
It was also very different than the goyishe meals, and not served on china or whatever.
I didn't ask the flight attendant, I was too tired and my brain was in the mush zone, so I took a pic and sent it back and opening an investigation post facto. Will update if anyone actually gets back to me.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2672 on: May 24, 2022, 12:21:15 PM »
that was my first thought. but look at the 'appetizer', it was exactly the same, no foil, with a sticker. and although it was served freezing cold it was clearly meant to be heated in the plastic.
It was also very different than the goyishe meals, and not served on china or whatever.
I didn't ask the flight attendant, I was too tired and my brain was in the mush zone, so I took a pic and sent it back and opening an investigation post facto. Will update if anyone actually gets back to me.

I recommend sending it to the OU.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2673 on: May 24, 2022, 12:24:43 PM »
I recommend sending it to the OU.
+1.
Also I confirmed that Zetko and Regal hot meals are both wrapped in foil. Something is very wrong with your picture.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2674 on: May 24, 2022, 12:25:29 PM »
that was my first thought. but look at the 'appetizer', it was exactly the same, no foil, with a sticker. and although it was served freezing cold it was clearly meant to be heated in the plastic.
It was also very different than the goyishe meals, and not served on china or whatever.
I didn't ask the flight attendant, I was too tired and my brain was in the mush zone, so I took a pic and sent it back and opening an investigation post facto. Will update if anyone actually gets back to me.

Did you reach out to Zetko?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2675 on: May 24, 2022, 12:26:21 PM »
I recommend sending it to the OU.
I did.
Did you reach out to Zetko?
I did not.

+1.
Also I confirmed that Zetko and Regal hot meals are both wrapped in foil. Something is very wrong with your picture.
How'd regal get involved?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2676 on: May 24, 2022, 12:26:45 PM »
The FA unwrapped it. It is clear that the fish has no chasima at all.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2677 on: May 24, 2022, 12:30:13 PM »
I did. I did not.
How'd regal get involved?
Airlines sometimes mix and match KSMLs.
Via @chff, tray from Regal, hot entree from Zetko:

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2678 on: May 24, 2022, 12:30:30 PM »
I did. I did not.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2679 on: May 24, 2022, 12:33:06 PM »
The FA unwrapped it. It is clear that the fish has no chasima at all.
pretty sure it was chicken by the look, if you mean the pic without a sticker. the plastic was sealed down, but the plastic was punctured, presumably by the FA to let steam out. 
She was younger, and may have been new to KSML, DTC. But there were older FA's around, and IIRC the foils have explicit instructions not to unwrap.
Biggest red flag was that the roll didn't say mezonos :) it was actually just wrapped in saran wrap. and all the 'sides (red stuff, chumus looking stuff and pesach looking cake) were not sealed at all. I assumed there had been a plastic wrap over the whole thing that they removed, which would also be a first, but then the hot meal is still shver.