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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2803 on: August 20, 2022, 11:45:59 PM »
Would anyone know where United is most likely to source KSML from on BER to EWR route?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2804 on: August 20, 2022, 11:53:48 PM »
Would anyone know where United is most likely to source KSML from on BER to EWR route?
I'd guess Stogel.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2805 on: August 21, 2022, 01:49:39 AM »


Just got a Stogel "meal", ATH- EWR on UA J  :(

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2806 on: August 21, 2022, 03:16:05 AM »






Served on AA PHL-ZRH. Dinner and Snack (instead of breakfast). Dinner was pretty good actually, looks not withstanding, except for the fact that only the entree was hot, everything else was frozen solid, so could not eat it.

The snack was also served frozen solid (interesting experience eating frozen pretzels ;) ).

This provider seems like they would make a very good option if the FAs would actually defrost the meals.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2807 on: August 21, 2022, 12:31:42 PM »
Just got a Stogel "meal", ATH- EWR on UA J  :(

What is that patty supposed to be? Doesn't look great :)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2808 on: August 21, 2022, 12:55:39 PM »

Just got a Stogel "meal", ATH- EWR on UA J  :(

OMG.
Send a picture of this to UA and ask that they find a new caterer ex-EU.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2809 on: August 21, 2022, 12:56:15 PM »






Served on AA PHL-ZRH. Dinner and Snack (instead of breakfast). Dinner was pretty good actually, looks not withstanding, except for the fact that only the entree was hot, everything else was frozen solid, so could not eat it.

The snack was also served frozen solid (interesting experience eating frozen pretzels ;) ).

This provider seems like they would make a very good option if the FAs would actually defrost the meals.
Probably the kitchen's fault for not defrosting. Definitely write to AA.
@chff Anything that Zetko can do to provide feedback on this?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2810 on: August 21, 2022, 01:43:40 PM »
Probably the kitchen's fault for not defrosting. Definitely write to AA.
@chff Anything that Zetko can do to provide feedback on this?
Thanks will do. AA agents have also absolutely no clue about the B6 elite benefits on AA, so they charged me for bags (they were talking among themselves how they got called in for doing a waiver the other day for someone and they should never do that again, and that AA doesn't train them properly. One agent went to ask a supervisor and the supervisor also said there's no such thing, so the other agent said that supervisor has no clue what she's talking about, and the other one also didn't know. I told them just charge me and get the bags on the plane, I'll get my refund from AA later. All of a sudden they were super confident that I won't get a refund and that AA charges even their elites for luggage, blah blah. ;) ) Have to get a refund for that.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2811 on: August 21, 2022, 01:44:23 PM »
Thanks will do. AA agents have also absolutely no clue about the B6 elite benefits on AA, so they charged me for bags (they were talking among themselves how they got called in for doing a waiver the other day for someone and they should never do that again, and that AA doesn't train them properly. One agent went to ask a supervisor and the supervisor also said there's no such thing, so the other agent said that supervisor has no clue what she's talking about, and the other one also didn't know. I told them just charge me and get the bags on the plane, I'll get my refund from AA later. All of a sudden they were super confident that I won't get a refund and that AA charges even their elites for luggage, blah blah. ;) ) Have to get a refund for that.
Was a mess on B6 as well, but eventually got it sorted out via Twitter DM beforehand.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2812 on: August 21, 2022, 01:54:28 PM »
Was a mess on B6 as well, but eventually got it sorted out via Twitter DM beforehand.
AA twitter DM confirmed before the flight that I get 2*50 Lbs (would prefer 1*70 lbs) before the flight but the problem is that you can't do it online and it won't work on the kiosk either so I had to try my luck with the agents.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2813 on: August 21, 2022, 01:58:51 PM »
OMG.
Send a picture of this to UA and ask that they find a new caterer ex-EU.
I don't think there is

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2814 on: August 21, 2022, 02:03:17 PM »
This provider seems like they would make a very good option if the FAs would actually defrost the meals.

Nothing to do with the FAs, has to do with the kitchen

Probably the kitchen's fault for not defrosting. Definitely write to AA.
@chff Anything that Zetko can do to provide feedback on this?

Doesn't seem like AA would care, I complained, they throw you a voucher and call it a day, doesn't seem like the airlines would care to improve

You need to order 24 hours out, yet serve frozen? you need to order 24 hours out, yet are able to remove a meal from the aircraft because I got upgraded??

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2815 on: August 21, 2022, 02:10:47 PM »
Airline: LO
Class: Business (ticketed in PE)
Route: EWR>WAW
Caterer: Zetko
Hechsher: Tartikov Beth Din
Flight date: June 2022
Meal in pics: Dinner & Breakfast

For some reason I got a "no-logo" Econ meal. Yah even for the VIPs FF messed up  :( >:( :-X. The breakfast went from the aircraft to the HQ of the airline




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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2816 on: August 21, 2022, 02:40:22 PM »
Airline: LO
Class: doesn't matter, you ain't getting this
Route: WAW>TLV
Caterer: Stogel
Hechsher: Machzikei Hadass of Antwerp
Flight date: June 2022
Meal in pics: Special selection for review

Without 24 hours notice ;) - the airline arranged a few Stogel meals for me to review. Cool when you board and you see a tag on the cart with your name, and only we got meals served.....

Okay, say what you want, but surprising it was ok, some of it was pretty edible. Maybe fi they remove the fish from every dish it would make for better optics, but I understand the need as many refrain from eating Flieshing/Chicken-Meat but will eat fish.


























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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2817 on: August 21, 2022, 02:44:48 PM »
Airline: BA
Class: PE (also pictured Econ meal)
Route: TLV>LHR
Caterer: Hamasbia
Hechsher: Badatz
Flight date: July 2022
Meal in pics: Breakfast






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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2818 on: August 21, 2022, 02:47:10 PM »
Airline: BA
Class: PE (also pictured Econ meal)
Route: TLV>LHR
Caterer: Hamasbia
Hechsher: Badatz
Flight date: July 2022
Meal in pics: Breakfast






Pity BA doesn't double cater Hermolis.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2819 on: August 21, 2022, 02:50:23 PM »
Airline: AA
Class: Business (ticketed in PE)
Route: LHR>JFK
Caterer: Hermolis
Hechsher: Kedassia
Flight date: July 2022
Meal in pics: no idea

Was ticketed in PE, and upgrade cleared "during boarding". The story with my meal kept changing on the hour, we have it, it's missing, you didn't order, till the final version that it was offloaded "after it was loaded" because I was upgraded from PE to Business. Seriously? By this time I lost track what I did get or how, but didn't get 2 full meals for 2 pax (I got some leftovers from others in econ or the one other in business)