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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2860 on: October 30, 2022, 10:13:17 AM »
I have a December flight JFK-CDG flight and no kosher option either (going or returning)
Thankfully I have a meal for the returning flight. Just the way there not. Kinda ridiculous especially for business class.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2861 on: October 30, 2022, 10:19:10 AM »
Has anyone had trouble getting their kosher meal ordered on Air France. I’m booked in business class from JFK-CDG-TLV and although the second leg has a kosher meal the first leg does not and there is no such option when choosing the menu. Any suggestions?
I flew BOS CDG TLV in Jan 2022 booked via DL.
Couldn't order in the app but was able to order through a DL phone agent for all segments 

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2862 on: October 30, 2022, 10:22:17 AM »
I flew BOS CDG TLV in Jan 2022 booked via DL.
Couldn't order in the app but was able to order through a DL phone agent for all segments
Interesting. I booked through AF directly.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2863 on: October 30, 2022, 04:09:03 PM »
I flew BOS CDG TLV in Jan 2022 booked via DL.
Couldn't order in the app but was able to order through a DL phone agent for all segments

That's a separate issue -- often times seats/meal requests don't work on codeshares.   I would never trust anyone but the operating airline with my seat request or my meal request

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2864 on: October 31, 2022, 01:43:57 PM »
Why wouldn't it?

Update:

It came... Unwrapped and heated up.... So totally unusable. Although the bread/cake was ok

Is there any point in complaining about that? This is the first time it has happened to me like this

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2865 on: October 31, 2022, 05:42:06 PM »
Update:

It came... Unwrapped and heated up.... So totally unusable. Although the bread/cake was ok

Is there any point in complaining about that? This is the first time it has happened to me like this
Sure. Ask them to train their staff better and tell them you went hungry.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2866 on: November 01, 2022, 02:21:30 AM »
Update:

It came... Unwrapped and heated up.... So totally unusable. Although the bread/cake was ok

Is there any point in complaining about that? This is the first time it has happened to me like this
I had a similar experience up thread. I made sure the caterer, airline and hashgocha knew, it's a post covid issue, the young domestic crews weren't trained on ksml. I think I got some compensation too, but main toeles is that the caterer can insist on better training

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2867 on: November 01, 2022, 10:37:24 AM »
Sure. Ask them to train their staff better and tell them you went hungry.

Complaint submitted...

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2868 on: November 01, 2022, 11:23:02 AM »
Has anyone had trouble getting their kosher meal ordered on Air France. I’m booked in business class from JFK-CDG-TLV and although the second leg has a kosher meal the first leg does not and there is no such option when choosing the menu. Any suggestions?
via twitter.   "Thank you for contacting Air France on Twitter. We have added a request of Kosher Meals for all your flights, except for the flight from New York JFK to Paris Charles de Gaulle. Please be informed that there is a temporary suspension of booking a Kosher meals on Air France flights that depart from New York JFK. For more information on the meals we offer, please visit our website here: https://t.co/7qODwKEXmi. We remain available."

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2869 on: November 01, 2022, 04:14:11 PM »
via twitter.   "Thank you for contacting Air France on Twitter. We have added a request of Kosher Meals for all your flights, except for the flight from New York JFK to Paris Charles de Gaulle. Please be informed that there is a temporary suspension of booking a Kosher meals on Air France flights that depart from New York JFK. For more information on the meals we offer, please visit our website here: https://t.co/7qODwKEXmi. We remain available."
Wow! Thank you for reaching out for me, it’s much appreciated.
Still can not understand how a huge international airline can not figure out how to get a kosher meal for a flight out of JFK. No other airline has this issue. Beyond ridiculous.
Thanks again! At least now I’m prepared and will bring my own food!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2870 on: November 01, 2022, 05:52:31 PM »
via twitter.   "Thank you for contacting Air France on Twitter. We have added a request of Kosher Meals for all your flights, except for the flight from New York JFK to Paris Charles de Gaulle. Please be informed that there is a temporary suspension of booking a Kosher meals on Air France flights that depart from New York JFK. For more information on the meals we offer, please visit our website here: https://t.co/7qODwKEXmi. We remain available."
Can you please share a screenshot of this?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2872 on: November 01, 2022, 10:24:57 PM »
Can you please share a screenshot of this?


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2873 on: November 02, 2022, 02:29:32 AM »
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Class First Class
Plane a321Transcon
Route BOS-LAX
Meal DINNER
Flight Date
9/29/22

Terrible meal.

It also doesn't help when everyone else in the cabin is being served a 7 course feast with hot rolls :-)
Same route. Got your leftovers.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2874 on: November 02, 2022, 02:39:17 AM »
Same route. Got your leftovers.

oh man :(     is that "seared tuna'' on the middle plate?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2875 on: November 02, 2022, 10:34:47 AM »
oh man :(     is that "seared tuna'' on the middle plate?
Yup. I found it in there. The main dish was a piece of turkey breast deli rolled up to look like something substantial.
I will register a complaint with all parties

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2876 on: November 02, 2022, 05:51:13 PM »
Has anyone had trouble getting their kosher meal ordered on Air France. I’m booked in business class from JFK-CDG-TLV and although the second leg has a kosher meal the first leg does not and there is no such option when choosing the menu. Any suggestions?
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/news/airline-news/air-france-will-restoring-kosher-meals-jfk-airlines-can-get-edible-food-well/
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2878 on: November 02, 2022, 07:00:01 PM »
After my meal was unwrapped and heated up I got this canned response. Totally ignored my request for comp.

Hello Mr. ******


Thank you for contacting American Airlines. We strive to put our customers at the center of everything we do. The details you provided highlight the importance of that focus, and we are sorry to hear things did not go as planned.

Please know that we strive to learn from every experience, so we appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback with us. Your input will be shared with our team as we continue towards our goal of providing a world class experience.

Thank you again for reaching out to share your experience with us. We hope to better deliver on our high standard of excellence next time we have the opportunity to welcome you aboard.





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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2879 on: November 02, 2022, 07:08:37 PM »
After my meal was unwrapped and heated up I got this canned response. Totally ignored my request for comp.

Hello Mr. ******


Thank you for contacting American Airlines. We strive to put our customers at the center of everything we do. The details you provided highlight the importance of that focus, and we are sorry to hear things did not go as planned.

Please know that we strive to learn from every experience, so we appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback with us. Your input will be shared with our team as we continue towards our goal of providing a world class experience.

Thank you again for reaching out to share your experience with us. We hope to better deliver on our high standard of excellence next time we have the opportunity to welcome you aboard.





Sincerely,



Gemma Flint

Customer Relations

American Airlines

I responded to the email and to AA on twitter let's see what response I get