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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2880 on: November 02, 2022, 07:12:36 PM »
I responded to the email and to AA on twitter let's see what response I get

The twitter response

We appreciate your feedback and see that Customer Relations received your new email. They will review and respond back to it ASAP!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2881 on: November 02, 2022, 08:13:16 PM »
Wow perfect timing thanks everyone. I have a biz class flight next week jfk-cdg-tlv round trip. How do I order kosher meals for the flight?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2882 on: November 02, 2022, 09:10:09 PM »
The twitter response

We appreciate your feedback and see that Customer Relations received your new email. They will review and respond back to it ASAP!
They will likely offer you either 5k AA points or a $50 voucher.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2883 on: November 03, 2022, 02:57:04 PM »
Just tried updating my meal on the Air France website. JFK-CDG still no option for kosher. CDG-TLV has kosher.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2884 on: November 03, 2022, 03:38:28 PM »
Same, and on twitter they still claim "its not available".

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2885 on: November 03, 2022, 03:41:01 PM »
Anyone know when United will have KSML on their IAD-CPT route?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2886 on: November 03, 2022, 03:46:55 PM »
Anyone know when United will have KSML on their IAD-CPT route?
They don't?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2887 on: November 03, 2022, 04:22:27 PM »
They don't?

"SSR KSML UA NO1 IADCPT2222Q05DEC.NOT OFFERED THIS MARKET"

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2888 on: November 03, 2022, 04:31:57 PM »
"SSR KSML UA NO1 IADCPT2222Q05DEC.NOT OFFERED THIS MARKET"
Message them on Twitter?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2889 on: November 03, 2022, 06:03:14 PM »
Message them on Twitter?
Yes, but just a general canned response.


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2890 on: November 03, 2022, 06:20:07 PM »
PM me name/PNR.
Did CPT-IAD work?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2891 on: November 03, 2022, 08:18:52 PM »
They will likely offer you either 5k AA points or a $50 voucher.

Hello Mr. *****



Thank you for reaching out American Airlines Customer Relations.

I am truly sorry that you were disappointed in the special meal you received while traveling in the first-class cabin on your flight to Dallas. We know that amenities are an important part of your travel experience and can either positively or negatively impact your overall enjoyment of the flight.

We carefully monitor our food and beverage service and when we are notified of inconsistencies, we work with the caterer to ensure that these deficiencies are not repeated. We want our customer journey to be the best in the industry and we thank you for giving us the opportunity to improve. As a gesture of goodwill and to encourage your continued loyalty, I've credited your AAdvantage® account with 3,500 bonus miles. You should soon see this mileage adjustment in your account balance.

Mr. *****, it's truly a pleasure to have you as a customer and we value your support as an AAdvantage® member since 1999. From all of us at American Airlines, we look forward to rebuilding your confidence in our service, and hope you'll give us the opportunity to provide you with a more positive experience in the future.





Sincerely,



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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2892 on: November 04, 2022, 01:13:32 AM »
Hello Mr. *****



Thank you for reaching out American Airlines Customer Relations.

I am truly sorry that you were disappointed in the special meal you received while traveling in the first-class cabin on your flight to Dallas. We know that amenities are an important part of your travel experience and can either positively or negatively impact your overall enjoyment of the flight.

We carefully monitor our food and beverage service and when we are notified of inconsistencies, we work with the caterer to ensure that these deficiencies are not repeated. We want our customer journey to be the best in the industry and we thank you for giving us the opportunity to improve. As a gesture of goodwill and to encourage your continued loyalty, I've credited your AAdvantage® account with 3,500 bonus miles. You should soon see this mileage adjustment in your account balance.

Mr. *****, it's truly a pleasure to have you as a customer and we value your support as an AAdvantage® member since 1999. From all of us at American Airlines, we look forward to rebuilding your confidence in our service, and hope you'll give us the opportunity to provide you with a more positive experience in the future.





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did you let the caterer know also?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2893 on: November 04, 2022, 10:26:39 AM »
AF put back KSML ex JFK

3.SSR KSML AF KK1 JFKCDG0023Y06NOV

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2894 on: November 04, 2022, 11:28:52 AM »
AF put back KSML ex JFK

3.SSR KSML AF KK1 JFKCDG0023Y06NOV

How do I reserve this? Just went to the AF website, it's still not an option

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2895 on: November 05, 2022, 07:34:14 PM »
How do I reserve this? Just went to the AF website, it's still not an option

Still not an option for me on the website, but I called AF and they reserved kosher JFK <> CDG

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2896 on: November 05, 2022, 11:09:02 PM »
If you are flying out of a location with kosher establishments do yourself a favor and get a cold cut or schnitzel sandwich or two and maybe a bagel & cream cheese and some muffins to take on the plane and forget the KSML. None of the meals I’ve had, china and silverware and all, even come close to a cold 12 hour old sandwich from Mikes chicken or any other decent place for that matter. And that’s the edible airline versions. I get it if you are flying out of some Asian airport with no kosher options, but why anyone bothers with the KSML stuff when you can bring along a decent sandwich is beyond me.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2897 on: November 06, 2022, 06:56:35 AM »
If you are flying out of a location with kosher establishments do yourself a favor and get a cold cut or schnitzel sandwich or two and maybe a bagel & cream cheese and some muffins to take on the plane and forget the KSML. None of the meals I’ve had, china and silverware and all, even come close to a cold 12 hour old sandwich from Mikes chicken or any other decent place for that matter. And that’s the edible airline versions. I get it if you are flying out of some Asian airport with no kosher options, but why anyone bothers with the KSML stuff when you can bring along a decent sandwich is beyond me.
wise words. so often there are issues with the kosher meals:
a) the taste ("i paid $5,000 for this flight and this is what i get?!")
b) the lack of ("woops, maybe you want some fruit?")
c) the hechsher ("under the strict supervision of the beis did of yehupitsville")
d) the rip ("it opened a bit mister" or "i opened it for you")
e) the confusion ("its good they wrote what's contained in here or else i wouldn't know if its milchig or fleishig, or what it is at all")
f) the timing ("is it 6 hours yet?" or "do we need to daven before we eat?" or "do i want to be fleishigs for the next 6 hours?")

so just listen to @jye an bring your own food. Guarantee that you'll have tasty food with a hechsher you eat, not needing to warm it up, know what your eating, and to eat whenever you choose. You can always eat the plane food if you choose, but having Pas B'Saaloh is well worth it.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2898 on: November 06, 2022, 02:15:46 PM »
How do i add ksml on AA reservation?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2899 on: November 06, 2022, 02:34:13 PM »
How do i add ksml on AA reservation?
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