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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2980 on: January 10, 2023, 02:56:49 PM »
Airline: AA
Class: Prem. Economy
Route: TLV>MIA
Caterer: Hamasbia
Hechsher: Hamasbia/b'datzy yerushalayim
Flight date: December 2022
Meal in pics: Dinner/Breakfast
Score: Dinner: 3/10  Breakfast: 0/10

Dinner: THIS. in premium?!?!  roll was actually ok, chulent/stew was ehh, salad was bad and so was chocolate cake
breakfast: couldnt even eat this....such a waste










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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2981 on: January 10, 2023, 03:11:34 PM »
Hamasbia is not ראוי לאכילת כלב these days.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2982 on: January 12, 2023, 09:29:54 AM »
does anyone know what the hechsher is on El Al flights from TLV to Europe if i don't order the Glatt Kosher meal?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2983 on: January 12, 2023, 09:41:56 AM »
does anyone know what the hechsher is on El Al flights from TLV to Europe if i don't order the Glatt Kosher meal?
Rabanut.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2984 on: January 12, 2023, 10:31:26 AM »
does anyone know what the hechsher is on El Al flights from TLV to Europe if i don't order the Glatt Kosher meal?
None but they are prepared in a kitchen under
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2985 on: January 12, 2023, 03:36:19 PM »
What does AF serve out of CDG on J?
"kragtwijk finest foods" hechsher is badatz amsterdam. the food is disgusting and stingy, bring your own food

Supper



Breakfast

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2986 on: January 12, 2023, 05:18:37 PM »
JAL out of NY isnt offering KSML on their drop down for special meals 

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2987 on: January 12, 2023, 05:56:02 PM »
None but they are prepared in a kitchen under
-.5 you (we) may agree that it's not certifiable but Rabbanut does indeed certify onboard preparation and service



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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2988 on: January 12, 2023, 07:56:02 PM »
"kragtwijk finest foods" hechsher is badatz amsterdam. the food is disgusting and stingy, bring your own food

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Breakfast

Thanks for the heads up!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2989 on: January 15, 2023, 06:16:58 AM »
Hamasbia is not ראוי לאכילת כלב these days.
Seriously! Glad I had some back up snacks in my bag :-)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2990 on: January 15, 2023, 11:04:54 AM »
Airline: AA
Class: Business
Route: MIA>TLV
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: GLATT
Flight date: January 2022
Meal in pics: Dinner/Breakfast
Score: Dinner: 7/10  Breakfast: 1/10

Dinner: FINALLY!!!!!   So Main course was 10/10 in taste.....after long day and bad meal in lounge I was really hungry and so main was tasty and hot! Even asked if they had extras and FA got me another one....she then asked if I wanted a whole new meal and I said no thank you, everything else was nasty!
Dessert: frozen
Salad: didnt taste good
side: no idea what it was...fish maybe?


breakfast: same nasty rubbery omlet as usual...pastrys were stale and fruit/cake thing didnt taste very good....was able to have half the cherry danish, thats about it.

Woke up before breakfast and asked FA for bottle water (there were no snacks out or anything, and it was still 2 hours before breakfast service)  and then asked if they had any packaged snacks and FA made big "HUMPF, we're preparing for breakfast service so we cant just have the snacks out also"...and then proceeded to put makeup on and brush her teeth, guess was coming off break, and chat with three other FA while I waited for my diva small bottled water....seems like the typical AA Fa attitude and service....FA gave me not one, not two but three wrong drink orders (wasnt a big deal at all, just odd because she even wrote them down) so i have three cans of soda and cups by me for meal time....she then gave me hot nuts and took me a second before realized, she forgot I have the KSML......maybe I'll put it all in a trip report, but I missed deltas service and smile , FORWARD facing business class seats BUT, I did sleep really well and feet werent restricted........
















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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2991 on: January 15, 2023, 11:49:30 AM »
can i ask a question? (you just did)
Why at home most people can have a piece of chicken and rice for supper and be totally happy with it, but on an airline they insists on giving a 4 course meal where usually 3 of the 4 are inedible?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2992 on: January 15, 2023, 12:44:25 PM »
can i ask a question? (you just did)
Why at home most people can have a piece of chicken and rice for supper and be totally happy with it, but on an airline they insists on giving a 4 course meal where usually 3 of the 4 are inedible?
1 out of 4 edible is pretty good for KSMLs.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2993 on: January 15, 2023, 12:57:40 PM »
1 out of 4 edible is pretty good for KSMLs.
i didnt say the fourth is edible, just that 3 of them are inedible  :)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2994 on: January 15, 2023, 01:32:15 PM »
moshe green:
ask a different question, why don't they just give good schnitzel and rice like you eat at home is it that hard?
why does it always have to be swimming in a cessspool!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2995 on: January 15, 2023, 01:44:34 PM »
moshe green:
ask a different question, why don't they just give good schnitzel and rice like you eat at home is it that hard?
why does it always have to be swimming in a cessspool!
Have you tried reheating shnitzel in a double sealed container?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2996 on: January 15, 2023, 02:18:34 PM »
Have you tried reheating shnitzel in a double sealed container?
pastrami & turkey wraps. That's the way to go for ksml. Sauce on the side

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2997 on: January 15, 2023, 06:44:11 PM »
Have you tried reheating shnitzel in a double sealed container?
just make sure the schnitzel is a little more greasy and no problem
they used to serve schnitzel and rice out of london on ly so is definetly doable

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2998 on: January 15, 2023, 07:17:54 PM »
just make sure the schnitzel is a little more greasy and no problem
they used to serve schnitzel and rice out of london on ly so is definetly doable
as long as you don't mind greasy soggy schnitzel

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2999 on: January 16, 2023, 01:33:45 AM »
can i ask a question? (you just did)
Why at home most people can have a piece of chicken and rice for supper and be totally happy with it, but on an airline they insists on giving a 4 course meal where usually 3 of the 4 are inedible?
maybe because when flying premium people expect a premium meal and experience.....
Personally, I gave the meal a 7/10 because just that, I had one very good main dish....breakfast had nothing, a small cherry danish is not breakfast in my book