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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3120 on: May 13, 2023, 10:30:39 PM »
Is united offering ksmls in domestic & north/ central America first?


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3121 on: May 13, 2023, 10:37:08 PM »
Is united offering ksmls in domestic & north/ central America first?
"Special meals are available on all international trans-Atlantic, trans-Pacific and most intra-Pacific. Special meals are also available on South American flights to/from Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru.

Special meals are available on most North America premium cabin flights 2,000 miles or longer."
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3122 on: May 13, 2023, 10:39:26 PM »
"Special meals are available on all international trans-Atlantic, trans-Pacific and most intra-Pacific. Special meals are also available on South American flights to/from Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru.

Special meals are available on most North America premium cabin flights 2,000 miles or longer."
saw this. Was wondering if that was a hard rule. See s they're behind DL and AA

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3123 on: May 13, 2023, 10:43:55 PM »
saw this. Was wondering if that was a hard rule. See s they're behind DL and AA
It is and they are.
People need to provide more feedback.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3124 on: May 13, 2023, 11:25:08 PM »
United flight back from TLV was absolutely horrible. The actual meal was left compleyely untouched, Looked gross. And all they had besides was a cheaply 1/2 shekel wafer and some Mediterranean slime. Felt like they were trying extra hard to be as cheap and bad as possible.
Stogle much better. Meal is sometimes ok and then there is crackers and pudding etc.
breakfast same problem.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3125 on: May 13, 2023, 11:29:32 PM »
United flight back from TLV was absolutely horrible. The actual meal was left compleyely untouched, Looked gross. And all they had besides was a cheaply 1/2 shekel wafer and some Mediterranean slime. Felt like they were trying extra hard to be as cheap and bad as possible.
Stogle much better. Meal is sometimes ok and then there is crackers and pudding etc.
breakfast same problem.
All KSML's ex-TLV are awful these days.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3126 on: May 14, 2023, 04:41:13 AM »
All KSML's ex-TLV are awful these days.
EK is quite good IME
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3127 on: May 14, 2023, 11:22:29 AM »
Maybe we should start a petition for united... my four complaints haven't really worked

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3128 on: May 14, 2023, 11:29:30 AM »
EK is quite good IME
Do they double cater in DXB?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3129 on: May 14, 2023, 12:03:29 PM »
seem like as meals are by https://www.kosherarabia.com/
Do they double cater in DXB?

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« Reply #3130 on: May 14, 2023, 12:05:07 PM »
Nice!
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3131 on: May 14, 2023, 12:53:46 PM »
United flight back from TLV was absolutely horrible. The actual meal was left compleyely untouched, Looked gross. And all they had besides was a cheaply 1/2 shekel wafer and some Mediterranean slime. Felt like they were trying extra hard to be as cheap and bad as possible.
Stogle much better. Meal is sometimes ok and then there is crackers and pudding etc.
breakfast same problem.
Just had stogel on UA exLHR.... no thanx
The chocolate was edible... i think
Left feedback asking for Hermolis

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3132 on: May 16, 2023, 06:22:09 AM »
Do they double cater in DXB?
Yes. They should become the Bornstein of TLV
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3133 on: May 16, 2023, 06:32:58 PM »
Airline: LA
Class: Y
Route: JFK-GRU
Caterer: Zetko
Hechsher: OU + Tartikov
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10): 7.5

Dinner:


Breakfast:




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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3134 on: May 21, 2023, 09:09:17 PM »
Question: KSML food seems totally random.
Will requesting that we not get Fish on delta ATL-TLV get us anywhere? My wife wont eat the KSML regardless, but she cannot be around fish.
FWIW, as of now, we are Economy Plebes.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3135 on: May 21, 2023, 09:31:40 PM »
Is the KSML best selection on Elal from JFK to TLV ?
Wondering the same. Anyone know what's the difference between Elal's choices?
(I know what's fish and what's child meal, don't know whats the difference between Strictly kosher beef meal, Mehadrin meal, and Regal meal)




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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3136 on: May 21, 2023, 10:28:54 PM »
Wondering the same. Anyone know what's the difference between Elal's choices?
(I know what's fish and what's child meal, don't know whats the difference between Strictly kosher beef meal, Mehadrin meal, and Regal meal)



Mehadrin and Regal is the same thing (name depends on the departure point). Beef is beef.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3137 on: May 21, 2023, 10:50:44 PM »
LY ewr-tlv
Class: W
Hechsher: Volova
Dinner:


Breakfast:

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3138 on: May 22, 2023, 01:24:17 PM »
I think I posted this elsewhere by realized it should be here.

ETIHAD BIZ AUH-IAD

First meal was excellent, but was very disappointed that the only other food on this 14-hour flight was a mid-flight snack



the main meal was the nicest iv experienced on an airplane and then we got this a few hours before landing, huge letdown.


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3139 on: May 24, 2023, 10:15:43 AM »
Airline: EK
Class: J
Route: DXB-SYD
Caterer: Kosher Arabia
Meal: Lunch
Hechsher: OU
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10): 9


Airline: EK
Class: J
Route: DXB-SYD
Caterer: Kosher Arabia
Meal: Light Bites
Hechsher: OU
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10): 10


Airline: EK
Class: J
Route: SYD-DXB
Caterer: Lewis
Meal: Lunch
Hechsher: KA
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10): 8