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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

Author Topic: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread  (Read 720602 times)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3181 on: July 01, 2023, 09:13:06 PM »
Would anyone have insight into why United does not allow KSML selection on MEL-SFO.
But they do allow it on MEL-LAX.
Which doesn't seem to make sense, and makes it seem like a system glitch.
AFAIK, its been like that since Covid.
Any ideas how to get around it?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3182 on: July 01, 2023, 10:08:51 PM »
Would love to know the answer.  We are on MEL to SFO later this month.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3183 on: July 01, 2023, 10:10:37 PM »
Would love to know the answer.  We are on MEL to SFO later this month.
And can I confirm that it is not showing for you?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3184 on: July 01, 2023, 10:22:35 PM »
It is not showing....nor is it showing SFO to SYD

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3185 on: July 01, 2023, 10:35:46 PM »
Would anyone have insight into why United does not allow KSML selection on MEL-SFO.
But they do allow it on MEL-LAX.
Which doesn't seem to make sense, and makes it seem like a system glitch.
AFAIK, its been like that since Covid.
Any ideas how to get around it?
Tried calling UA?
Any other routes affected?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3186 on: July 01, 2023, 10:45:54 PM »
Tried calling UA?

Yes, plenty of times.
Pre-flight, agents will just say that its not an option and there is nothing they can do.
Post-flight messages will earn canned responses, such as this one:

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Your email has been brought to my attention for further handling. Thank you for your patience.

I'm sorry you didn't receive Kosher meals on your flight. I can understand your frustration, especially since you requested the meals in advance.

I will share your feedback with our Catering Operations team so we can improve our services.

Additionally, as a sincere token of our apology, I am sending you each a $xx electronic travel certificate. You can use the certificates towards the purchase of a future flight on United and United Express. They will arrive via email shortly.

As a valued MileagePlus member, we appreciate your business and hope to provide you with a better experience the next time we fly together.

Regards,

xxx
Customer Care
Case ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Any other routes affected?
I haven't gone through all the scenarios, but it seems to affect some Australian flights that depart or arrive SFO.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3187 on: July 01, 2023, 10:50:40 PM »
Any suggestions as how to get meal from MEL to SFO?  - have 4 trips in next 7 weeks - the SFO-MEL had no issue at all.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3188 on: July 01, 2023, 10:52:31 PM »
I'll write to UA media relations. Just confirming it's just MEL-SFO I'm asking about?
What about SYD-SFO or BNE-SFO?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3189 on: July 01, 2023, 10:53:45 PM »
I'll write to UA media relations. Just confirming it's just MEL-SFO I'm asking about?
What about SYD-SFO or BNE-SFO?
It is definitely an ongoing issue with MEL-SFO.
I don't know about the other routes, I guess only possible to know with a dummy booking.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3190 on: July 02, 2023, 12:48:11 AM »
Any recent Jetblue Mint reports?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3191 on: July 03, 2023, 12:58:49 AM »
Would anyone have insight into why United does not allow KSML selection on MEL-SFO.
But they do allow it on MEL-LAX.
Which doesn't seem to make sense, and makes it seem like a system glitch.
AFAIK, its been like that since Covid.
Any ideas how to get around it?

Update so far:
I emailed United Corporate, as well as the two airline Kosher caterers in Australia, as well as the two Kosher Agencies in Australia.

United Corporate (auto?)responded that they need time to investigate and hope to have a response within 5-10 business days from an Executive Solutions Manager.

The Kosher caterers clarified that each one respectively is the exclusive Kosher supplier for the two airlines caterers in Australia, NDATA and Gate Gourmet:
  • NDATA clarified to their Kosher caterer that they do not stock UA.
  • Gate Gourmet clarified to their Kosher caterer they do stock UA, and there is no KSML supply issue on their end; they have plenty of stock and ability to supply all UA flights regardless of departing Australian airport, and the problem lies with UA.

As to the Kosher Agencies, one didn’t respond, and the other didn’t seem to regard it as a matter for their attention… (as of this post).

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3192 on: July 03, 2023, 01:58:50 AM »
What is LOT TLV-WAW-ORD J going to have?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3193 on: July 03, 2023, 03:23:22 AM »
What is LOT TLV-WAW-ORD J going to have?
Unless something changed recently, it was stogels in Jan (the big special box) - ie BYOK or be hungry

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3194 on: July 03, 2023, 03:18:38 PM »
LOT/ J/ BUD- ICN-





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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3195 on: July 03, 2023, 04:00:34 PM »
Anyone know what airfrance serves? In J, to TLV.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3196 on: July 03, 2023, 11:38:53 PM »
Hi, does anyone know if Zetko is still giving KSML for LOT airlines? JFK - WAW in economy

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3197 on: July 04, 2023, 09:39:13 PM »
As someone that only eats certain shchitos, it is very nice to have a vegetarian kosher meal.
Fresko out of ewr

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3198 on: July 04, 2023, 10:41:31 PM »
As someone that only eats certain shchitos, it is very nice to have a vegetarian kosher meal.
Fresko out of ewr


It's very good. Unfortunately not yoshon.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3199 on: July 05, 2023, 01:02:00 AM »
As someone that only eats certain shchitos, it is very nice to have a vegetarian kosher meal.
Fresko out of ewr

Picture of the meal? How was it?
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