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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2013, 01:35:05 PM »
Yup, clearing out the Pesach stock :P
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2013, 02:26:07 PM »
Not cool!! Hated their meals... That means they take kosher meals from Bangkok to Dubai to ny to serve??
The Bangkok caterer has been really improving.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2013, 05:31:59 PM »
had it last year on Air China F and was very very disappointing... to the point that my colleague wanted to call Chabad to complain that it's a chutzpah they're serving such meals... perhaps we got bad stock, but was just bad...

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Re: KSML Master Thread
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2013, 09:21:48 PM »
Was just served a Hamasbia dinner and breakfast on UA TLV-EWR.
That was probably one of the worst airline KSML I've ever had.  The main dish in both, were horrendously inedible.  And talk about those eggs, ughh!  Gross.
sounds you never had stogel
if their meals looked even a 1/4 as good as they look picture

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Re: KSML Master Thread
« Reply #64 on: April 07, 2013, 01:22:16 AM »
sounds you never had stogel
if their meals looked even a 1/4 as good as they look picture
Sorry moko, I actually did have Stogel, and their food was not only edible, but pretty good IMHO (for an airline meal that is).  Excuse my unconventional opinion here on DDF, but I wasn't so crazy over the Hermolis meals that I got in business class.  In fact I enjoyed the Zohar I got in business more than the Hermolis.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2013, 05:24:52 AM »
had it last year on Air China F and was very very disappointing... to the point that my colleague wanted to call Chabad to complain that it's a chutzpah they're serving such meals... perhaps we got bad stock, but was just bad...
Yes, it has improved since. It was really bad then.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2013, 07:01:31 AM »
did anyone else notice a steep decline in the quality and taste of hermolis meals? just got served a bunch and it was pretty bad...

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #67 on: April 07, 2013, 07:30:19 AM »
I got a few meals in the past few weeks, really liked the lox covered mountain.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #68 on: April 07, 2013, 07:32:33 AM »
I got a few meals in the past few weeks, really liked the lox covered mountain.
tuna fish mountain?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #69 on: April 07, 2013, 07:35:39 AM »
I wasn't sure if it was tuna or salmon or something :).

I ask them to triple wrap & warm the bread, and it makes a pretty good meal.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #70 on: April 07, 2013, 08:57:20 AM »
Yes, it has improved since. It was really bad then.

Happy to hear... Funny all the trouble they would go through taking meals from bkk to be served from JFK-dbx

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #71 on: April 07, 2013, 10:43:19 AM »
did anyone else notice a steep decline in the quality and taste of hermolis meals? just got served a bunch and it was pretty bad...
I had a few from CDG to JFK and they were mediocre at best.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #72 on: April 07, 2013, 12:44:40 PM »
I had a few from CDG to JFK and they were mediocre at best.
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Kosher Meals -- Turkish Airlines YYZ-IST-TLV
« Reply #73 on: April 07, 2013, 02:48:43 PM »
Just came back from a pesach trip from Toronto - Istanbul - Tel Aviv (and return). I was originally booked in Comfort Class but later upgraded to Business.  TK is an amazing airline -- the plane from Toronto is great -- it has Wifi on it too.  Their Business Class Kosher Meal appears to be the same as Coach and Comfort Class.  In Business they actually have a chef onboard making food -- which made me a bit jealous as I ate my boxed meals.

The kosher caterer in Turkey is actually REALLY good.  I was impressed with the food -- even though it was all melchig, I still liked the quality and taste of it all.  I took some pics but was using my iPad so my apologies for the bad quality/close up shots.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #74 on: April 07, 2013, 03:29:10 PM »
Welcome to DDF and thanks!
Do you know the brand and hechsher by any chance?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2013, 04:29:16 PM »
i posted some time ago about tk. if its the turkish caterer, its under the OK, and its extremely fresh. my piece of salmon that i got on sat nite, was made on friday with a sunday expiration
it seems that they dont believe in deep freezing for months

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2013, 04:40:03 PM »
Welcome to DDF and thanks!
Do you know the brand and hechsher by any chance?
OK (under the direct supervision of R' Menachem Mendel Chitrik), + the chief Rabbinate of Turkey (FWIW).

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2013, 06:52:50 PM »
OK (under the direct supervision of R' Menachem Mendel Chitrik), + the chief Rabbinate of Turkey (FWIW).

+1 OK certification and it also has "TK" (Turkey Kosher) hashgacha -- presumably the OK is more recognizable.  ;D

One more point that I should note -- I flew the day after Pesach and the TK kosher meal was a chametz meal -- meaning they didn't try to give us the leftover pesach meals.  The label on all the meals were dated April 3rd (the day I was flying) and said that they needed to be used within 3 days of the date.  It's too bad that TK doesn't have an 'upgraded' meal for business class -- but, for what it's worth, they do have fresh cut fruit (for those that will eat it) and they give you an individually wrapped Godiva chocolate before take off. 

 

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2013, 07:41:12 PM »
BA f lhr jfk
Hermolis

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2013, 09:07:35 PM »
NRT-HKG NH911 Business
and the same meal on
HKG-BKK TG639 Business
except instead of fish a meat dish with an inch of fat floating on it. completely inedible.

hermolis - chabad of hong kong hechsher. glatt kosher - main food not very good, but a lot of food.
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