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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #540 on: May 21, 2015, 11:52:32 PM »
Quote from: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:49:29 PM
If you don't cross an ocean you're not getting a KSML on UA from EWR.
And BTW you don't get lounge access when flying P.S. J out of EWR. Don't ask me why.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #541 on: May 21, 2015, 11:53:03 PM »
Quote from: ilherman on May 21, 2015, 11:52:32 PM
And BTW you don't get lounge access when flying P.S. J out of EWR. Don't ask me why.
Because there is no PS service or J class from EWR-LAX/SFO.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #542 on: May 21, 2015, 11:53:52 PM »
Quote from: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
DL serves KSMLs on all flights with meals.
Given the direction in which UA is headed, I may very well switch to them. Their credit cards are not strong enough, though. Gotta love the club card on UA.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #543 on: May 21, 2015, 11:54:04 PM »
Quote from: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
Because there is no PS service from EWR.
Hmmmm, what do you define as PS service?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #544 on: May 21, 2015, 11:55:13 PM »
Quote from: ilherman on May 21, 2015, 11:54:04 PM
Hmmmm, what do you define as PS service?
I don't define it, they do.
"Our p.s.® Premium Service flights offer an international product for an exceptional transcontinental travel experience between New York JFK and Los Angeles or San Francisco."
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/premiumservices.aspx
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #545 on: May 21, 2015, 11:55:49 PM »
Quote from: ilherman on May 21, 2015, 11:54:04 PM
Hmmmm, what do you define as PS service?

Old 757s with a BusinessFirst cabin with lie-flat seats. They fly between JFK-LAX/SFO.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #546 on: May 22, 2015, 12:00:12 AM »
The thing is that you could get a BF seat sometimes out of EWR, but it's there "by mistake" not guaranteed. PS flights are guaranteed 757 lie flat BF seats.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #547 on: May 22, 2015, 12:01:30 AM »
Quote from: sillypainter on May 22, 2015, 12:00:12 AM
The thing is that you could get a BF seat sometimes out of EWR, but it's there "by mistake" not guaranteed. PS flights are guaranteed 757 lie flat BF seats.
Even if you get the seat, it's still not BF service. You get domestic service out of EWR with no KSMLs.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #548 on: May 22, 2015, 12:51:38 AM »

Quote from: mochada on May 21, 2015, 03:01:07 PM
Sad, sad, very sad.  Are they required to offer you a Pre-Departure meal? Compare this to Hyatt Diamond, are they required to buy you a kosher meal?
The point is not that they are required to provide the pre-departure meals. Rather, the point is that their marketing materials falsely advertise that they are available when, in fact, they are not.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #549 on: May 22, 2015, 12:59:42 AM »
Quote from: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
DL serves KSMLs on all flights with meals.
except for my flight from MEX-JFK the KSML was an Apple, we had a good laugh though
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #550 on: May 22, 2015, 06:50:53 AM »
Quote from: zow on May 22, 2015, 12:51:38 AM
The point is not that they are required to provide the pre-departure meals. Rather, the point is that their marketing materials falsely advertise that they are available when, in fact, they are not.

Their marketing materials promise a KSML as a pre-departure benefit?

Link?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #551 on: May 22, 2015, 10:56:40 AM »
Quote from: AJK on May 22, 2015, 06:50:53 AM
Their marketing materials promise a KSML as a pre-departure benefit?

Link?
No, I didn't say KSML. I said they promise a pre-departure meal. See the link:
http://www.aerlingus.com/new-business-class/indexna.html

(Scroll down to the bottom, where they say:
"Pre-Dine Service

On flights departing from New York JFK and Boston, we are pleased to announce the option to dine before you fly. Eat your fill before you fly, and then all you have to do is to sleep the night away in your comfy bed. You will arrive relaxed and ready to go with a full nights sleep.")

My e-mail exchange with them, posted above a few days ago, indicated that they do not have pre-departure meals at all, KSML or otherwise.  Doesn't that seem like false advertising?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #552 on: May 22, 2015, 01:43:37 PM »
Flying CX in F, booked with AA, who do I contact about Kosher food?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #553 on: May 22, 2015, 02:17:20 PM »
Quote from: dpk4588 on May 22, 2015, 01:43:37 PM
Flying CX in F, booked with AA, who do I contact about Kosher food?

CX. But I believe AA can also put in the request for you.

You flying From or two HKG?

Also call the CX lounge in HKG to get kosher food in the lounge.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #554 on: May 22, 2015, 02:35:16 PM »
Quote from: chucksterace on May 22, 2015, 02:17:20 PM
CX. But I believe AA can also put in the request for you.

You flying From or two HKG?

Also call the CX lounge in HKG to get kosher food in the lounge.
Thanks. I'm flying JFK-YVR no HKG for me, not yet, hopefully I'll work my way there one day.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #555 on: May 22, 2015, 02:52:48 PM »
Quote from: dpk4588 on May 22, 2015, 02:35:16 PM
Thanks. I'm flying JFK-YVR no HKG for me, not yet, hopefully I'll work my way there one day.

Best to do it through CX. IIRC I did it online with the CX locator number. Btw, the food ex JFK is regular Regal economy food, so nothing to look out for. xYVR you get a local caterer, which looks EXTREMELY unappetizing, I think it's because the way they package it...I didn't even touch it.

To sum it up: BYOKF.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #556 on: May 22, 2015, 03:12:40 PM »
Quote from: sillypainter on May 22, 2015, 02:52:48 PM
Best to do it through CX. IIRC I did it online with the CX locator number. Btw, the food ex JFK is regular Regal economy food, so nothing to look out for. xYVR you get a local caterer, which looks EXTREMELY unappetizing, I think it's because the way they package it...I didn't even touch it.

To sum it up: BYOKF.
How do I get my CX locator #? All I have my AA locator #.

I'm only flying OW so the xYVR meal isnt a concern for me.
I've seen mixed reviews about the meal xJFK, but to be honest I don't know the last time I took a flight with a meal, so I don't know what I'd compare it to.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #557 on: May 22, 2015, 04:09:35 PM »
Call AA for locator.

I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #558 on: May 22, 2015, 04:25:39 PM »
Quote from: AJK on May 22, 2015, 04:09:35 PM
Call AA for locator.

I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.
By coincidence.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #559 on: May 22, 2015, 04:29:54 PM »
Quote from: AJK on May 22, 2015, 04:09:35 PM
Call AA for locator.

I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.

I know I read your wife's TR but IIRC I've also seen people strongly disagree with you. (About the food, not what you thought of it)
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