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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #880 on: May 04, 2016, 11:49:47 AM »
Cross posting in case someone searches this thread for Norwegian.
back last year when I flew them several times they didnt offer KSML, even if you paid. glad to see they smartened up

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #881 on: May 04, 2016, 07:56:55 PM »
Haha, more for the compensation if they won't bring it :)

And they did end up having an extra one onboard, that was kosher for Passover. Passed on it, before they brought it over.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #882 on: May 05, 2016, 01:41:23 PM »
Just came back from the new SFO-TLV direct in biz both ways and the food is beyond atrocious! The US - TLV was barely OK, I only ate the starter. The return was so horrible I took one look and handed it back to them. Thanks GOD for Aroma in the airport - not great, but good enough.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #883 on: May 05, 2016, 01:42:14 PM »
BYOK FTW.
But write to UA anyway.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #884 on: May 05, 2016, 02:03:16 PM »
I did already - that along with broken power and delayed bags got me 300. Still, this issue has been going on for a long time now man! I always bring my own food, I was just posting here to tell folks, that the new flights still suck hard!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #885 on: May 05, 2016, 02:09:32 PM »
Only delicious UA KSML is ex-HNL/OGG.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #886 on: May 05, 2016, 02:26:23 PM »
Only delicious UA KSML is ex-HNL/OGG.

While delicious might be nice to have, for me the order of importance with KSML are:

1. Kashrus (good reliable השגחה, with standards acceptable to me - strictly Cholov Yisroel, etc.)
2. Edible.
3. Fresh.
4. Easy to actually eat given the circumstances (dishes, utensils, space etc.)
5. Tasty.

Since I can't rely on any airline for any of the above, it's always BYOK for me, if there's something decent, I take that as a bonus.

It is unfortunate that the Airlines don't really seem to be properly aware of the Kosher consumer market, and just buy whatever the local "kosher" caterer will give, regardless of Kashrus standards that need to be universally acceptable, and regardless of quality.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #887 on: May 09, 2016, 07:52:12 AM »
Booked some late EY F flights, asked social media team about adding KSMLs but they didn't get back to me in time (should have just called) - anyway now less than 72 hours  (flight is 2 days from now), any other way to try and get the KSMLs?

They agreed to send an email to the catering team but I'm skeptical they'll even try...
Also no KSML for AUH lounge anymore right?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #888 on: May 09, 2016, 10:57:15 PM »
Booked some late EY F flights, asked social media team about adding KSMLs but they didn't get back to me in time (should have just called) - anyway now less than 72 hours  (flight is 2 days from now), any other way to try and get the KSMLs?

They agreed to send an email to the catering team but I'm skeptical they'll even try...
Also no KSML for AUH lounge anymore right?
Where are you flying out of?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #889 on: May 09, 2016, 11:15:27 PM »
Anyone with experience on DL J international, with BYOK?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #890 on: May 09, 2016, 11:46:43 PM »
Anyone with experience on DL J international, with BYOK?

No experience with BYOK, but DL J on JFK-SVO was probably the best KSML ever offered to me. One of the courses (out of a three or four course meal) was simply spoiled (for wife), DL compensated with choice of GC (for which I took $100 Amazon GC).
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #891 on: May 10, 2016, 01:04:33 AM »
Where are you flying out of?
TLV/AMM

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #892 on: May 10, 2016, 05:15:22 AM »
No experience with BYOK, but DL J on JFK-SVO was probably the best KSML ever offered to me. One of the courses (out of a three or four course meal) was simply spoiled (for wife), DL compensated with choice of GC (for which I took $100 Amazon GC).
Thanks. But flight was booked within 24 hours of departure, so that's not an option.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #893 on: May 10, 2016, 06:55:15 AM »
Where are you flying out of?
Out of curiosity, why do you ask?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #894 on: May 10, 2016, 07:46:21 AM »
Anyone with experience on DL J international, with BYOK?

I had success in domestic J (ATL-HNL (called Delta One these days) and LAX-JFK).

Ask in the BYOK thread, you're likely to find more data points there.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #895 on: May 10, 2016, 07:55:15 AM »
I had success in domestic J (ATL-HNL (called Delta One these days) and LAX-JFK).

Ask in the BYOK thread, you're likely to find more data points there.
Thanks. Did they give you hard time.

Was looking for that thread, couldn't find it on Tapa.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #896 on: May 10, 2016, 08:17:04 AM »
Thanks. Did they give you hard time.

Was looking for that thread, couldn't find it on Tapa.

Here

No hard time, although the FA out of LAX was slightly hesitant for a moment.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #897 on: May 10, 2016, 08:50:57 AM »
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No hard time, although the FA out of LAX was slightly hesitant for a moment.
Thank you. Much appreciated.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #898 on: May 10, 2016, 11:21:35 PM »
Anyone know hechsher on AC J ksml out of CDG?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #899 on: May 11, 2016, 09:27:51 AM »
Only delicious UA KSML is ex-HNL/OGG.
We didn't get Oahu Kosher. Meals were from NY.