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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel)
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on March 28, 2019, 02:38:02 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2025 on: February 17, 2019, 04:00:53 PM »
never had a chance to taste stogel yet
Go to your local supermarket and pick up a can of cat food...it may be more appetizing...

Was just looking through old pics of stogel meals. It scary that they call that food.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2026 on: February 17, 2019, 04:08:46 PM »
Assuming you brought your own. Sometimes that isnt possible, in which case its terrible
I've never relied on a KSML in my life.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2027 on: February 17, 2019, 04:08:49 PM »
Go to your local supermarket and pick up a can of cat food...it may be more appetizing...

But the cat food won't be Glatt, Bishul Yisroel, Cholov Yisroel etc.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2028 on: February 17, 2019, 04:09:53 PM »
I've never relied on a KSML in my life.

How could one? Even if the airline is known to serve the best KSML, things happen. It might not be loaded. Seal might be broken, etc. etc.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2029 on: February 17, 2019, 04:13:13 PM »
How could one? Even if the airline is known to serve the best KSML, things happen. It might not be loaded. Seal might be broken, etc. etc.
Exactly.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2030 on: February 17, 2019, 04:19:28 PM »
I've never relied on a KSML in my life.
Like I said, there are scenarios where BYOK is not possible or extremely cumbersome. It's great that you havent experienced that yet, but it does exist.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2031 on: February 17, 2019, 04:24:35 PM »
Like I said, there are scenarios where BYOK is not possible or extremely cumbersome. It's great that you havent experienced that yet, but it does exist.

Sandwiches, Fruit, Vegetables, Crackers, Cheese, Nuts, Potato Chips, cold (room temperature) schnitzel are all various options I've brought on flights.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2032 on: February 17, 2019, 04:36:03 PM »
I always prefer that they forget the KSML. The compensation is always better than the KSML.
Being that I don't always bring a proper meal, with many options I'd prefer to have the KSML as some aren't that bad.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2033 on: February 17, 2019, 04:37:56 PM »
Being that I don't always bring a proper meal, with many options I'd prefer to have the KSML as some aren't that bad.
No KSML out there is worth ~10K miles.

Like I said, there are scenarios where BYOK is not possible or extremely cumbersome. It's great that you havent experienced that yet, but it does exist.
Yet to experience it in rather extensive travels. Just a matter of whether you think you can rely on KSML or not, which my travels have taught me not to.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2034 on: February 17, 2019, 04:43:27 PM »


No KSML out there is worth ~10K miles.
Recently what comes to mind is a transatlantic AA flight, had great Borenstein meal, (Breakfast wasn't)  I have no experience with AA KSML comp, but I doubt they'd give 10k, unless I'm wrong.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2035 on: February 17, 2019, 04:50:05 PM »
Recently what comes to mind is a transatlantic AA flight, had great Borenstein meal, (Breakfast wasn't)  I have no experience with AA KSML comp, but I doubt they'd give 10k, unless I'm wrong.
I've gotten 5K-20K.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2036 on: February 17, 2019, 05:46:04 PM »
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2037 on: February 17, 2019, 06:07:10 PM »
Looking back at old posts on a WhatsApp kashrus group, it seems like RCC adheres to OU standards, however, they did have a few cases where Kashrus fraud was perpetrated under their watch.
True, but they are in the cRc list and any list I've ever seen. I prefer those hechshers to random ones in Brooklyn that have no information online about them.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2038 on: February 18, 2019, 05:05:22 PM »
Saw this on a blog I recently came across (looks like Hamasbia ex-TLV):



They want to make sure people aren't קובע סעודה if they make a מזונות.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2039 on: February 18, 2019, 08:08:23 PM »
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