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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2040 on: February 18, 2019, 08:18:09 PM »
One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2041 on: February 19, 2019, 02:21:26 AM »
Saw this on a blog I recently came across (looks like Hamasbia ex-TLV):



They want to make sure people aren't קובע סעודה if they make a מזונות.
How much are they putting in there?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2042 on: February 19, 2019, 03:17:41 AM »
They had some serious issues in the past. Might I remind you erev Pesach a few years back?
Looking back at old posts on a WhatsApp kashrus group, it seems like RCC adheres to OU standards, however, they did have a few cases where Kashrus fraud was perpetrated under their watch.
True, but they are in the cRc list and any list I've ever seen. I prefer those hechshers to random ones in Brooklyn that have no information online about them.
They upped their protocols significantly after Doheny, if that's what you're referring to. Their standards were always high.
Every frum yid in Los Angeles is reliant on them to some degree, and one has to be careful with how they phrase things.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2043 on: February 19, 2019, 11:04:36 AM »
Every frum yid in Los Angeles is reliant on them to some degree,
Factually incorrect

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2044 on: February 19, 2019, 03:47:53 PM »
Factually incorrect
Example? There is a tremendous interreliance between kashrus agencies. OK Restaurants use RCC meat and veggies. Etc.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2045 on: February 19, 2019, 03:52:27 PM »
Example? There is a tremendous interreliance between kashrus agencies. OK Restaurants use RCC meat and veggies. Etc.

Are you insinuating that

Every frum yid in Los Angeles

eats in restaurants?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2046 on: February 19, 2019, 05:55:12 PM »
Are you insinuating that

eats in restaurants?
Take out. Caterers. Grocery stores. Shul kiddush.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2047 on: February 19, 2019, 06:46:50 PM »
which meals are served on Tap airlines from NYC / LIS?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2048 on: February 20, 2019, 06:04:13 AM »
https://onemileatatime.com/american-airlines-kosher-breakfast/
He'll never understand  :)
The comments on this post show the insanity of the world today. The only thing these people care about is the wrapping is hurting the environment... Lucky them, they must have so little issues in life to have the brain capacity for this stupidity!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2049 on: February 20, 2019, 07:15:44 AM »
which meals are served on Tap airlines from NYC / LIS?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2050 on: February 21, 2019, 08:54:40 AM »
which meals are served on Tap airlines from NYC / LIS?

no one flew with them?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2051 on: February 26, 2019, 07:04:23 AM »
Just had the absolute best KSML I have ever had on an airline. Hermolis from Doha to the Philippines on Qatar, tasted fresh! Freaking HAD taste!! (no this was not my first Hermolis) Absolutely fantastic!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2052 on: February 27, 2019, 03:07:22 PM »
Update from LOT 2/25/19 - switched to Zetko

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Dear Travel Partner,

Please be advise that starting this week, on all  flights from the US , LOT Polish Airlines will be serving (upon request- KSML) Kosher Meals prepared by Zetko company from NY.

Zetko kosher meals, including all food components used on the tray, are certified Kosher by the Orthodox Union and the Tartikov Beth.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2053 on: February 27, 2019, 03:08:26 PM »
Airline: LO
Class: PE
Route: JFK>BUD
Caterer: Zetko
Hechsher: Tartikov Beth Din
Flight date: 2/24/19
Meal in pics: Dinner

Seriously, the best KSML I have ever had





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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2054 on: February 27, 2019, 03:08:34 PM »
Airline: LO
Class: PE
Route: JFK>BUD
Caterer: Zetko
Hechsher: Tartikov Beth Din
Flight date: 2/25/19
Meal in pics: Breakfast





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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2055 on: February 27, 2019, 03:13:31 PM »
Airline: LO
Class: Economy
Route: JFK>BUD
Caterer: Zetko
Hechsher: Tartikov Beth Din
Flight date: 2/24/19
Meal in pics: Dinner



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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2056 on: February 27, 2019, 03:13:40 PM »
Airline: LO
Class: Economy
Route: JFK>BUD
Caterer: Zetko
Hechsher: Tartikov Beth Din
Flight date: 2/25/19
Meal in pics: Breakfast



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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2057 on: February 27, 2019, 03:14:47 PM »
Update from LOT 2/25/19 - switched to Zetko

Wow, a KSML company that actually wants feedback? Be still, my heart:

http://www.zetko.com/testimonials.html

(Definitely a chassidisha company though based on the "from where did you fly" in the questionnaire ;D.)
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2058 on: February 27, 2019, 03:16:16 PM »
(Definitely a chassidisha company though based on the "from where did you fly" in the questionnaire ;D.)
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2059 on: February 27, 2019, 03:16:21 PM »
(Definitely a chassidisha company though based on the "from where did you fly" in the questionnaire ;D.)

Formerly known as Weiss Kosher Cuisine