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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2100 on: March 01, 2019, 01:30:59 AM »
Does he make it, or is it an ELAL kitchen under his supervision? In any event, next time I see him in NY (or in Kfar Chabad) I will ask him.

Is this where it comes from: https://www.vosizneias.com/20358/2008/09/15/thailand-bangkok-based-rabbi-helps-local-airline-caterer-to-be-kosher-in-the-sky/

Yes I believe that is where it is from.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2101 on: March 13, 2019, 10:01:54 PM »
What are the odds if I fly the day after pesach I'll get kp meal in business Qatar

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2105 on: March 17, 2019, 06:48:04 AM »
What are the odds if I fly the day after pesach I'll get kp meal in business Qatar
I would like to know the answer to this question, but for IB, TLV-MAD-BOS, 3 days after Pesach ends.  I imagine the probability estimate depends principally on (1) How close to Pesach, (2) Airline, (3) Departure City.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2107 on: March 17, 2019, 03:34:27 PM »
What are the odds if I fly the day after pesach I'll get kp meal in business Qatar
Dont know Qatar,  but Ukraine have KP 1 week after. Putrid.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2108 on: March 17, 2019, 10:41:17 PM »
Is British Airways First class, outbound from London, the only airline/booking category that provides kosher meals on real china, with cutlery, etc.?  Also how does that work Kashrut-wise?  They show you everything packaged and sealed and then plate it for you?  Sorry for the Noob questions...flown a lot in business but never had plated food service and I've got a BA F later this year. :)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2109 on: March 17, 2019, 10:49:58 PM »
Is British Airways First class, outbound from London, the only airline/booking category that provides kosher meals on real china, with cutlery, etc.?  Also how does that work Kashrut-wise?  They show you everything packaged and sealed and then plate it for you?  Sorry for the Noob questions...flown a lot in business but never had plated food service and I've got a BA F later this year. :)

No biggie. The airlines gives to Hermoils  NEW cutlery and dishes and they seal it in the tray. Same is for LH out of FRA. The airlines then takes your tray and reuses the dishes with the general public.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2110 on: March 17, 2019, 10:54:42 PM »
Make sure to tell them to call you before they open and plate the food.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2111 on: March 17, 2019, 11:04:19 PM »
No biggie. The airlines gives to Hermoils  NEW cutlery and dishes and they seal it in the tray. Same is for LH out of FRA. The airlines then takes your tray and reuses the dishes with the general public.

Awesome, thanks for explaining!

Make sure to tell them to call you before they open and plate the food.

Thanks for that tip too!

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It's funny because I read through all this and before I even got to the nasty (yet unfortunately normal) kosher meal I thought his "regular" meals he posted ahead looked pretty gross too!  And they ran out of glasses and couldn't really bring him a drink before take off and the seat looked super teeny?  I know everyone wants to fly on United because of no YQ and obviously direct to TLV is ideal but aside from YQ & routing, the whole experience for everybody in that J class looked very lackluster...especially, if travelling with my family, I think I'd prefer Turkish, with a small YQ & layover, rather than that flight.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2112 on: March 18, 2019, 06:01:28 AM »


I know everyone wants to fly on United because of no YQ and obviously direct to TLV is ideal but aside from YQ & routing, the whole experience for everybody in that J class looked very lackluster...especially, if travelling with my family, I think I'd prefer Turkish, with a small YQ & layover, rather than that flight.
That's exactly it. Many people do prefer the European airlines over United.
I'd prefer Swiss with a normal connection time easily, and I quite frankly don't even like LX J.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2113 on: March 25, 2019, 11:50:32 PM »
Airline: EK
Class: F
Route: MXP-JFK
Caterer:Rustichelli
Hechsher: Bialla rebbe
Was one of the better ksml i had was surprised ek flight attendants knew how to properly prepare it.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2114 on: March 26, 2019, 05:02:17 AM »


Airline: EK
Class: F
Route: MXP-JFK
Caterer:Rustichelli
Hechsher: Bialla rebbe
Was one of the better ksml i had was surprised ek flight attendants knew how to properly prepare it.
Terrible stuff. And I don't see much work to need to be know how to do.
Embarrassing that they can't get a nicer caterer at with some real utensils.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2115 on: March 26, 2019, 08:40:49 AM »
Terrible stuff. And I don't see much work to need to be know how to do.
Embarrassing that they can't get a nicer caterer at with some real utensils.

This is why I order the standard vegetarian or vegan meal. Much better. And before you jump to judgement ("oy gevalt, kashrus!"), remember that not everyone is as religious as you.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2116 on: March 26, 2019, 10:16:10 AM »
This is why I order the standard vegetarian or vegan meal. Much better. And before you jump to judgement ("oy gevalt, kashrus!"), remember that not everyone is as religious as you.
No one cares how religious you are but you can keep that info to yourself as it helps no one to know what you do if most here wouldnt do that.

But either way I would rather just bring a sandwich with me then order a vegetarian meal even if it was kosher and good.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2117 on: March 26, 2019, 11:41:55 AM »
This is why I order the standard vegetarian or vegan meal. Much better. And before you jump to judgement ("oy gevalt, kashrus!"), remember that not everyone is as religious as you.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #2119 on: March 28, 2019, 12:16:53 PM »
How does Sohar rate on the Stogel-Hermolis 1-10 scale?

I like this scale, and nominate it to be used as the official KSML ranking scale, henceforth to be known as the ZOW Stogel-Hermolis Scale, also abbreviated as the Stogel-Hermolis Scale or ZSH Scale.

Some examples of possible uses:

TK KSML ranks 8.5 on the ZOW Stogel-Hermolis Scale.
Borenstein KSML ranks 5 on the Stogel-Hermolis Scale.
Weiss (or whatever they renamed to) ranks 6.7 on the ZSH Scale.
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