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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2480 on: June 17, 2020, 09:27:48 AM »
Because they can get away with it. Most (all?) airlines aren't offering special meals so they won't lose business over it.

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Another sorry tale of the "what can we get away with" attitude...


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2481 on: June 17, 2020, 09:57:34 AM »
A real shame. When do you think theyll be coming back?
How hard is it/ is it possible to convince them to warm up your own meal if you have the right sized pan?
Does it make a difference what cabin your in?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2482 on: June 17, 2020, 10:00:48 AM »
BYOK was getting tough before COVID19.
Seems highly unlikely now
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2483 on: June 17, 2020, 12:50:08 PM »
Because they can get away with it. Most (all?) airlines aren't offering special meals so they won't lose business over it.

Can I safely assume TLV-EWR on UA (Business Class) will have normal KSML?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2484 on: June 17, 2020, 12:53:43 PM »
Which airlines have suspended KSMLs due to COVID?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2485 on: June 17, 2020, 12:57:45 PM »
Which airlines have suspended KSMLs due to COVID?

Perhaps none; haven't been on a plane for several months so I wanted to confirm.

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« Reply #2486 on: June 17, 2020, 01:01:24 PM »
Perhaps none; haven't been on a plane for several months so I wanted to confirm.
Asking in general.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2487 on: June 17, 2020, 01:16:17 PM »
Which airlines have suspended KSMLs due to COVID?
I booked tickets on UA and BA To London and the Airlines both said no KSML

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2488 on: June 17, 2020, 01:20:11 PM »
WH yahoyld covid affect KSML? It's already completely sealed.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2489 on: June 18, 2020, 10:31:48 AM »
WH yahoyld covid affect KSML? It's already completely sealed.
Because they can get away with it. Most (all?) airlines aren't offering special meals so they won't lose business over it.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2490 on: June 18, 2020, 12:16:19 PM »
Which airlines have suspended KSMLs due to COVID?
A better question is which didn't. KL & LH don't offer KSML, SQ offers it online but have heard reports it doesn't show up. LY from Europe doesn't offer full meals only a sandwich & olives.
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« Reply #2491 on: June 18, 2020, 12:32:33 PM »
What about AA/DL?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2492 on: June 18, 2020, 12:50:05 PM »
What about AA/DL?
AF/DL are serving ex ny. Don't know about aa

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2493 on: June 18, 2020, 10:50:16 PM »
I just tried to request a ksml on UA from LHR to EWR, the phone rep told me that they aren't doing requests and he said that all meal and beverage services have been suspended for the time being.

Is this true or is it a case of DROPR?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2494 on: June 18, 2020, 10:51:25 PM »
I just tried to request a ksml on UA from LHR to EWR, the phone rep told me that they aren't doing requests and he said that all meal and beverage services have been suspended for the time being.

Is this true or is it a case of DROPR?
You won't get KSML unless it's EWR-TLV or vv
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2495 on: June 18, 2020, 10:52:28 PM »
I asked him what am I supposed to do about having a drink for 7+ hours when you can't bring drinks through security, his response was "you can bring beverages through security, just as long as they are less than 3.3 Oz"!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2496 on: June 18, 2020, 10:54:10 PM »

Is this worth any bonus miles?

If they are actually not doing any meals they will probably not offer anything. If it's just special meals that are cancelled they might offer something.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2497 on: June 19, 2020, 06:20:15 AM »
Of course UA will provide some form of food & drink. LHR also has plenty of vending machines although airport stores are closed. Some airports relaxed liquid limits during Covid.
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« Reply #2498 on: June 21, 2020, 06:02:41 AM »
Because they can get away with it. Most (all?) airlines aren't offering special meals so they won't lose business over it.

Official response from United:

"Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, we're temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. We're also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv."

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2499 on: June 21, 2020, 08:13:59 AM »
Official response from United:

"Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, we're temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. We're also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv."
I am trying to figure out why its safe for EWR-TLV while all other flights its deemed unsafe?