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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2013, 11:04:17 AM »
Only difference was which kids had off-brand Bamba and which kids had the real stuff.
People are going to think you are joking. I just want to say that he's 100% serious. That is pretty much the only difference between the classes.
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2013, 11:08:17 AM »
People are going to think you are joking. I just want to say that he's 100% serious. That is pretty much the only difference between the classes.

Easy, now. Let's try not exaggerating too much.
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2013, 11:09:09 AM »
I'm not any smarter then chazal who says that $ does not make you happy

I'm surprised it took this long for someone to bring up the hashkafic aspects of this question. Isn't there a Chazal about ashirus being a greater nisayon than aniyus?

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2013, 11:42:13 AM »
I'm surprised it took this long for someone to bring up the hashkafic aspects of this question. Isn't there a Chazal about ashirus being a greater nisayon than aniyus?
What does greater nisayon have to do with happy/not happy?

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2013, 11:49:17 AM »
People are going to think you are joking. I just want to say that he's 100% serious. That is pretty much the only difference between the classes.

Well maybe the Strollers too. Oh and the American kids have this novelty called Coats

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2013, 11:50:26 AM »
I think its only a few select cities, far from the whole world. One of the things I love about Yerushalayim is that for the most part the people are poor. $40k a year with 12 kids is considered comfortable. It a very small minority dreaming up, or even trying to dream up these million dollar schemes.
Status is mostly a machla in LA/NY/MIA.  Here in flyover country it's much less pronounced.  On the coasts you see people work themselves into the poorhouse to drive an Acura or Infiniti, I don't really see that in my neck of the woods.
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2013, 11:54:29 AM »
People are going to think you are joking. I just want to say that he's 100% serious. That is pretty much the only difference between the classes.

Just wanted to make sure you're both referring the Israeli people in the park...and not the Americans. Because many Americans don't have Bamba as the only difference.
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2013, 11:58:41 AM »
Just wanted to make sure you're both referring the Israeli people in the park...and not the Americans. Because many Americans don't have Bamba as the only difference.

Well that depends which park you are referring to :)

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2013, 12:00:33 PM »
Status is mostly a machla in LA/NY/MIA.  Here in flyover country it's much less pronounced.  On the coasts you see people work themselves into the poorhouse to drive an Acura or Infiniti, I don't really see that in my neck of the woods.

I'm not talking about status. Kids in CLE or PIT don't hang out at the park with a soccer ball the entire summer and stay  happy. Life in America is just a lot more complicated. Hard to explain unless you've lived in Israel with a family in the right place

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #69 on: January 31, 2013, 12:20:11 PM »
I'm not talking about status. Kids in CLE or PIT don't hang out at the park with a soccer ball the entire summer and stay  happy. Life in America is just a lot more complicated. Hard to explain unless you've lived in Israel with a family in the right place
Before technology that's all kids did. My grandfather grew up in the Midwest and said in the summer he'd wake up go play baseball and come home for dinner when the sun came down. Parents never worried about them and that's what the whole neighborhood would do every summer.
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #70 on: January 31, 2013, 12:22:07 PM »
Before technology that's all kids did. My grandfather grew up in the Midwest and said in the summer he'd wake up go play baseball and come home for dinner when the sun came down. Parents never worried about them and that's what the whole neighborhood would do every summer.
No need to go back to your grandfather, that's what we used to do until we got a computer at home :)
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #71 on: January 31, 2013, 12:34:50 PM »
Before technology that's all kids did. My grandfather grew up in the Midwest and said in the summer he'd wake up go play baseball and come home for dinner when the sun came down. Parents never worried about them and that's what the whole neighborhood would do every summer.

Ha Ha. It wasn't just the Midwest my friend

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #72 on: January 31, 2013, 12:38:15 PM »
Well that depends which park you are referring to :)

Neither me or Chaikel lived in A@#$$I

I think we're referring to the same park  ;)

And just to be sure...that supposed to say Arzei?  :)
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #73 on: January 31, 2013, 12:38:30 PM »
Ha Ha. It wasn't just the Midwest my friend
??? Should I say my grandfather was from somewhere else?

You said life in america is a lot more complicated I'm saying it's not intrinsically America, but rather technology...
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #74 on: January 31, 2013, 12:39:55 PM »
I think we're referring to the same park  ;)

And just to be sure...that supposed to say Arzei?  :)

I was thinking Agassi...but doesn't make sense   ???
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #75 on: January 31, 2013, 12:43:22 PM »
I'm not talking about status. Kids in CLE or PIT don't hang out at the park with a soccer ball the entire summer and stay  happy. Life in America is just a lot more complicated. Hard to explain unless you've lived in Israel with a family in the right place


Before technology that's all kids did. My grandfather grew up in the Midwest and said in the summer he'd wake up go play baseball and come home for dinner when the sun came down. Parents never worried about them and that's what the whole neighborhood would do every summer.


This is one of the biggest reasons I would potentially like to live in Israel one day.  Or on a farm.  In the middle of nowhere.
But seriously Israel is one of the only places I know that still has kids running around outside all day and gives children the freedom to go places themselves while still being surrounded by a frum environment.
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2013, 12:45:23 PM »
One other interesting point he makes is that a person will be better off at the top of the middle class than at the bottom of the upper class. Being at the bottom of the upper class means you go into a store and you can't afford most things as opposed to at the top of the middle class you can

+1, I always say that most people don't know the right explanation of the word 'afford'. IMO being able to afford something is not merely having the money to buy it but also afford it getting lost, ruined, breaking or whatever. Basically affording something goes far beyond just being able to buy it.
The typical example I give is when a guy has the money to buy a nice and expensive car but get stressed, angry and upset when it gets a little scratch (ex), he can't afford it, period. 

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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2013, 12:50:30 PM »
But seriously Israel is one of the only places I know that still has kids running around outside all day and gives children the freedom to go places themselves while still being surrounded by a frum environment.

+1
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2013, 12:51:04 PM »


This is one of the biggest reasons I would potentially like to live in Israel one day.  Or on a farm.  In the middle of nowhere.
But seriously Israel is one of the only places I know that still has kids running around outside all day and gives children the freedom to go places themselves while still being surrounded by a frum environment.
Correct, but that freedom often comes along with a hefkerus and lack of chinuch inmanners and middos
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Re: Does money bring you happiness?
« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2013, 12:53:17 PM »
Just wanted to make sure you're both referring the Israeli people in the park...and not the Americans. Because many Americans don't have Bamba as the only difference.
You deprive your kid?

I mean I held out and waited until mine was 5 months before giving him Bamba, but I don't see too many 3 mo old playing in the park
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