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The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« on: February 04, 2013, 12:35:14 AM »
I've been debating charging the kids' private school tuition to maximize points earning, and despite thorough searching on the forums, I can't find that its been discussed.

Our kids' school waives the CC convenience fee if  tuition is paid in full by mid-summer. My plan would be to charge tuition on a points card (meet min spend in the process), then transfer to the Slate (0% interest through April 2014, with $0 fee for balance transfers), paying the monthly portion as I would normally pay to the school. So long as Vanilla Reloads continue, I could pay off the Slate while meeting spends on additional cards...

Is there something I'm missing? What is the wisdom, or lack thereof, in charging tuition in this way?

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 01:53:22 AM »
i know people that spend over 60k per year on their cc (not paid in full by previous summer though) what is your question? what should have been discussed but wasn't? 

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 08:14:22 AM »
Maybe it's just an obvious win, and as a fairly new player I'm just coming into the revelation myself?

Other revelations, such as VR/Bluebird, Amazon Payments, etc... those are discussed seemingly to no end. Tuition being a far larger expense than my gas bill, and so many people here having said expense, I just figured it would be a standard 'discoverable' method for meeting a high min spend, and/or maximizing the points opportunity.

Either way... provided I can secure a line of credit high enough, this would be a good move, yes?

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 08:19:39 AM »
Yes!
Good move.
But one questions remains, whether your Slate limit will be high enough so it shouldn't effect your debt to credit ratio to the negative side.
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 08:39:25 AM »
But one questions remains, whether your Slate limit will be high enough so it shouldn't effect your debt to credit ratio to the negative side.

Yep, that's one of the considerations...

Here's my high-level pro/con list... I suppose I'm asking, is there anything I'm missing, or is there any failure in my assessments:

Cons/considerations:
 
- If financial position changes through the year, the school will likely be more flexible in editing payments/schedule than a CC company.
- Carrying a balance will factor into CC score via debt utilization ratio (I can verify, but I have to assume this is a Personal, not Business, card)
- Need to secure TWO cards with credit lines high enough to charge all of tuition at one time (last Chase cards I applied for had 5K limits, not enough for our tuition responsibility)
- Unforeseen circumstances affecting kids' enrollment (ie. unexpectedly need to transfer schools mid-year).

Pros:
- Possible double-dip on points (min spend/initial payment + VR to pay balance, while it lasts)
- ensures at least single points are earned for tuition (I'm enjoying Bluebird/VRs, but y'can't count on it lasting forever, and this ensures I'll get points for tuition, even if VRs go away).
- some flexibility in the payment schedule (pay more on 3 paycheck months, less on 2 paycheck months)
- frees up limits in other payment services (we also pay our rent, babysitter, cleaning help, grad school tuition, etc. via Bluebird & Amazon Payments, and don't want to open additional accounts to expand monthly limits.)

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 09:48:41 AM »
check if a BT would work from one chase card to another. .

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 09:54:48 AM »
Can you add "on a CC" to the title?

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 10:05:16 AM »
Can you add "on a CC" to the title?
+1, I thought you were referring to whether schools should let students come for free
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition on CC
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 11:08:30 AM »
Can you add "on a CC" to the title?

Would love to... but I don't seem to have the ability to edit the original post... perhaps I need to be at the same IP address to edit?

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 11:10:53 AM »
Can you add "on a CC" to the title?
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 11:20:46 AM »
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 11:50:40 AM »
check if a BT would work from one chase card to another. .
Im almost certain that it wont allow you to transfer from any Chase account. All BTs ive come across wont allow it.

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 12:01:35 PM »
check if a BT would work from one chase card to another. .


And heres the language from the Slate offer:
"We may decline to process any balance transfer request that is from any other account or loan that we (Chase Bank USA, N.A., First USA Bank or Bank One) or any of our affiliates issued."

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 12:18:37 PM »
Im almost certain that it wont allow you to transfer from any Chase account. All BTs ive come across wont allow it.
The T&C's don't allow it but have you tried to make sure?
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 12:24:58 PM »
The T&C's don't allow it but have you tried to make sure?

Other blogs' commenters have tried and failed.

DH was targeted for an AmEx Platinum with 100K bonus after 10K min spend, so I was thinking that'd be a good place to throw this purchase. There are other cards that offer bonuses for $30K+/year spends, but our tuition responsibility (hopefully) won't get us close enough to that annual threshold to make the big-spend bonus more than new-card bonuses. Please point me in the direction of big-spend bonuses that WOULD, if I'm off-base!

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 12:26:38 PM »

And heres the language from the Slate offer:
"We may decline to process any balance transfer request that is from any other account or loan that we (Chase Bank USA, N.A., First USA Bank or Bank One) or any of our affiliates issued."

The way around that is to transfer to another credit that has no balance on it, and then call that credit card company up and say I made a mistake and transferred to the wrong card can you cut me a check.... I have done it once to Amex and it worked, and I tried a different time to a Spirit credit card (I don't remember who issued it at the time) and they just refused the transfer and bounced it back.

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 12:27:57 PM »
The T&C's don't allow it but have you tried to make sure?
Have not tried with Chase but did try with others and they denied any BT from their lending affiliates.

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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 12:30:19 PM »
Have not tried with Chase but did try with others and they denied any BT from their lending affiliates.
Isnt it just simpler to make the charge on an Amex or Citi card and transfer from there. SPG points are valued just as much (if not more ) as Sapphire. Id just go the simple route.
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Re: The wisdom (or lack thereof) of charging tuition
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 12:34:36 PM »
check if a BT would work from one chase card to another. .

If VR are available you shouldn't need to BT.
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