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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1780 on: May 08, 2025, 10:54:24 AM »
That's what I answered. Either statistically likely to cause hezek or what is widely accepted to be.
What makes the second, third... time different than the first?
Why do we now say that there's danger that someone should avoid? Can't it be that at that point there was a gezeira that the person should die?

Is it simply a rov/chazaka of some sort.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1781 on: May 08, 2025, 11:00:08 AM »
What makes the second, third... time different than the first?
Why do we now say that there's danger that someone should avoid? Can't it be that at that point there was a gezeira that the person should die?
The third time is different because until then, one was not mechuyev to avoid it. When one is not mechuyev, there is no kitrug in shamayim that triggers a din for the fellow. Once one is mechuyev, the kitrug may get him into hot water where no din would have happened due to one's action (no different than other actions that trigger din, such as saying LH or doing certain averos).
Gzeros that one should die will happen at the set time, but even there, the kiyum of the gzera might be pushed off due to some zechus or another until the guy passes under a kosel raua.
Is it simply a rov/chazaka of some sort.
Sakana is only calculated that way according to RSZ. RMF holds it kicks in when the world begins to see it as dangerous.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1782 on: May 08, 2025, 11:27:45 AM »
The third time is different because until then, one was not mechuyev to avoid it. When one is not mechuyev, there is no kitrug in shamayim that triggers a din for the fellow. Once one is mechuyev, the kitrug may get him into hot water where no din would have happened due to one's action (no different than other actions that trigger din, such as saying LH or doing certain averos).
Gzeros that one should die will happen at the set time, but even there, the kiyum of the gzera might be pushed off due to some zechus or another until the guy passes under a kosel raua. Sakana is only calculated that way according to RSZ. RMF holds it kicks in when the world begins to see it as dangerous.
Noted about chazaka according to RSZ. Was just looking briefly at the gemara in chullin 10b about where we learn rov and chazaka from.

I'm not sure if we're on the same page here, let me shift my question.
Most (all?) people have to do hishtadlus for parnassah for whatever reason. How do we know what's hishtadlus? Who said opening a business is hishtadlus as opposed to spinning and doing jumping jacks?
That's sort of what I'm asking.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1783 on: May 08, 2025, 01:39:11 PM »
Most (all?) people have to do hishtadlus for parnassah for whatever reason. How do we know what's hishtadlus? Who said opening a business is hishtadlus as opposed to spinning and doing jumping jacks?
That's sort of what I'm asking.
Okay, that's an entirely different question. (That was Motzei Shabbos Vaeira. I'm only half kidding.) The short answer is that there are two schools of thought.
One requires a basic level of hishtadlus because the lack of it commonly causes a lack of fundamental needs fulfilled: that is, it is normal for those who do not put in this hishtadlus to lack their basic needs. As such, this hishtadlus is incumbent on everyone.
The other school of thought says there is a measuring stick, the manifestation of emunah - bitachon - which precludes hishtadlus. This is entirely dependent on the person. If you lack bitachon (and thefore, menuchas hanefesh) regarding a certain outcome, hishtadlus against that outcome is required. If you aren't worried about it (not out of a lack of responsibility / head in the clouds but out of bitachon, the nuance of which is beyond many and a Rebbe is needed), no hishtadlus.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1784 on: May 12, 2025, 03:45:51 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/408210
Is there no yichud for a stepdaughter born from IVF? Or is she the same as any other stepdaughter?
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1785 on: May 12, 2025, 09:15:03 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/408210
Is there no yichud for a stepdaughter born from IVF? Or is she the same as any other stepdaughter?
Why would it be any different?

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #1786 on: May 12, 2025, 08:06:23 PM »
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