NHL Master Thread

[momo]

Apparently he scored. But the goal was disallowed

lol!!!

[JT27MP]

What are these guys thinking?

Either you are married too long or you forgot what its like to be single out there.
For a regular single guy, with all the stuff that the internet & media bombard a person with, the yetzer hara is raging as it is.
Now multiply that by a zillion for Kane !

Kane is on top of the world with more than enough money, with women all over him.
What do you expect him to do? There is a gemara out there  about placing a young boy with a pocket full of money
in front of a "bais zonos".

I can't imagine this lady is sooooo innocent. But as Yuneeq said, lets wait for the facts.

[Dr Moose]

Either you are married too long or you forgot what its like to be single out there.
For a regular single guy, with all the stuff that the internet & media bombard a person with, the yetzer hara is raging as it is.
Now multiply that by a zillion for Kane !

Kane is on top of the world with more than enough money, with women all over him.
What do you expect him to do? There is a gemara out there  about placing a young boy with a pocket full of money
in front of a "bais zonos".

I can't imagine this lady is sooooo innocent. But as Yuneeq said, lets wait for the facts.

very nice rant, but I don't think CM got half of what you're trying to say

[ChaimMoskowitz]

very nice rant, but I don't think CM got half of what you're trying to say

Actually I did and he is way off base.

[skyguy918]

Either you are married too long or you forgot what its like to be single out there.
For a regular single guy, with all the stuff that the internet & media bombard a person with, the yetzer hara is raging as it is.
Now multiply that by a zillion for Kane !

Kane is on top of the world with more than enough money, with women all over him.
What do you expect him to do? There is a gemara out there  about placing a young boy with a pocket full of money
in front of a "bais zonos".

I can't imagine this lady is sooooo innocent. But as Yuneeq said, lets wait for the facts.

I think the expectation is that he not rape anybody. What does any of what you said have to do with rape?

If it turns out it wasn't rape, then I don't think your explanation is necessary. And if it turns out it was rape, then your explanation is irrelevant.

Actually I did and he is way off base.

+1

[Yehuda57]

I think the expectation is that he not rape anybody.

No, it is alway's the victim's fault. She asked for it by being flirtatious, dressing provacatively, or just being female. You liberal, PC poeople are crazy to expect a man faced with so many women throwing themselves at him NOT to rape them. That's crazy talk.

[oiseli48]

Patrick Kane has just been suspended for the first for games of the NFL season

Is he on the Chicago Bears team that won the Stanley Cup?

This isn't the NFL

[ChaimMoskowitz]

No, it is alway's the victim's fault. She asked for it by being flirtatious, dressing provacatively, or just being female. You liberal, PC poeople are crazy to expect a man faced with so many women throwing themselves at him NOT to rape them. That's crazy talk.

What are you talking about?

[Yehuda57]

What are you talking about?

Either you are married too long or you forgot what its like to be single out there.
For a regular single guy, with all the stuff that the internet & media bombard a person with, the yetzer hara is raging as it is.
Now multiply that by a zillion for Kane !

Kane is on top of the world with more than enough money, with women all over him.
What do you expect him to do? There is a gemara out there  about placing a young boy with a pocket full of money
in front of a "bais zonos".

I can't imagine this lady is sooooo innocent. But as Yuneeq said, lets wait for the facts.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Then you have quoted that poster and not the one you did.

[A3]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/ea-sports-removes-patrick-kane-from--nhl-16--videogame-cover-185902514.html

[CS91]

He's a young NHLer who's had a lot of success and won 3 Stanley Cups. In any city, especially a hockey city like Buffalo, women probably throw themselves at him. Did he really have to go for the one girl that wasn't interested?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Did he really have to go for the one girl that wasn't interested?

Source?

[CS91]

Source?

Meaning, if the allegations are true, then it means he raped her, hence she wasn't interested.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

They need to stop treating athletes differently.

[yuneeq]

They need to stop treating athletes differently.

I think it depends on what the charges are.

If it's DUI, domestic abuse, assault, an athlete should be viewed and treated just like any other criminal.

When it comes to rape allegations, it's hard to discount the fact that many, many women want to be with athletes, and athletes don't really have much motive for rape (unless I'm really clueless).

You don't expect an athlete to grab someone off the street and rape her. With an athlete, the facts in the case are usually blurrier, because the meeting between them is consensual and there's allegedly a point where the women claims she said "no". You then have to somehow determine using a rape kit and whatever evidence you can get, whether or not he raped her. The problem is there will always be leeway even if the evidence suggests there was a rape, as it can never be proven 100%.

It can also be a case where the women is 17 and could claim rape even if it's 100% consensual.
Which I think is ridiculous to be illegal at that age, athlete or not.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The  average Joe Smith IMHO would have been charged the first day. Athletes should be no different. They all get their day in court.

[yuneeq]

The  average Joe Smith IMHO would have been charged the first day. Athletes should be no different. They all get their day in court.

He wasn't charged right away?
I think he was but they just wouldn't confirm it with the press.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

He wasn't charged right away?
I think he was but they just wouldn't confirm it with the press.

It would be hard to keep that a secret but we will find out sooner or later.

[yuneeq]

It would be hard to keep that a secret but we will find out sooner or later.

I don't know how the legal system works, but it seems like they are following procedure.

From August 7th:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-patrick-kane-investigation-20150807-story.html

"The case is clearly in the investigatory stage,” said Buffalo attorney Terrence Connors, who is familiar with people overseeing the investigation. “It has been assigned to a senior prosecutor in the office of the district attorney. … She will be working with the local authorities to determine if there is sufficient evidence to either file a charge in local criminal court or to proceed to a grand jury presentation. Those are her options."

From August 12th:
http://wivb.com/2015/08/12/district-attorney-says-hamburg-police-continues-to-lead-investigation-into-pat-kane/