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Re: nhl
« Reply #1300 on: May 14, 2015, 02:01:13 PM »
If you are going one player against one player then yes the goalie is more important than a single defensemen. As you just pointed out that a defense has many parts. How about you answer a question?  :)

The Hawks allowed the least amount of goals this year. They have been consistently ranked near the top for the last few years. What is the main reason for this? The play of their goalies or the play of their defense?
What do 2 out of the 3 teams, that allowed the least goals have in common? Great goaltending. Chicago is the outlier.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1301 on: May 14, 2015, 02:04:03 PM »
What do 2 out of the 3 teams, that allowed the least goals have in common? Great goaltending. Chicago is the outlier.
What are you smoking? Since everyone likes stats maybe check his playoff stats (Crawford). Start with the most important one and that is wins.
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1302 on: May 14, 2015, 02:05:33 PM »
What do 2 out of the 3 teams, that allowed the least goals have in common? Great goaltending. Chicago is the outlier.
Does NY have two great goaltenders? Refresh my memory. How did the NY backup do when the Queen went down?
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1303 on: May 14, 2015, 02:12:47 PM »
A) Calling him Queen in this context is considered quite a sexist term. Not that I care, but I think you would.

B) yes they have 2 great goaltenders.

C) you don't need a great goaltender to win the cup, but a great goaltender can help you win it even if the rest of the team isn't deserving.
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1304 on: May 14, 2015, 02:13:19 PM »
Does NY have two great goaltenders? Refresh my memory. How did the NY backup do when the Queen went down?
If you are seriously suggesting that lundquist is not great, then there is no point in carrying on a conversation with you. Either you are a fool, who does not know hockey, or for whatever reason you have an anti ny/lundquist bias.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1305 on: May 14, 2015, 02:14:34 PM »
What are you smoking? Since everyone likes stats maybe check his playoff stats (Crawford). Start with the most important one and that is wins.
Crawford has been hit or miss. to call him great, would do the term an injustice. Yes when he is on, he can carry the team.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1306 on: May 14, 2015, 02:19:40 PM »
Lots of confidence here that the Rangers will advance.
I picked the Lightning, though obviously I'm not counting the Rangers out.

I think the Lightning are probably the worst matchup the Rangers could have, even more than the Hawks.
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1307 on: May 14, 2015, 02:20:09 PM »
If you are seriously suggesting that lundquist is not great, then there is no point in carrying on a conversation with you. Either you are a fool, who does not know hockey, or for whatever reason you have an anti ny/lundquist bias.
When the backup comes in and does better than the starter what does that tell you?
1- You are the only team that has two great goalies or
2 - The defense is more responsible for what is going on than you think.

Let gets this straight. The Hawks give up the least amount of goals and it is the defense. NY does it and it is the not one but two great goalies that did it? If there is a fool in this conversation it sure isn't me.
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1308 on: May 14, 2015, 02:22:20 PM »
Crawford has been hit or miss. to call him great, would do the term an injustice. Yes when he is on, he can carry the team.
...and they won two Cups.  ;)
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1309 on: May 14, 2015, 02:33:49 PM »
When the backup comes in and does better than the starter what does that tell you?
1- You are the only team that has two great goalies or
2 - The defense is more responsible for what is going on than you think.

Let gets this straight. The Hawks give up the least amount of goals and it is the defense. NY does it and it is the not one but two great goalies that did it? If there is a fool in this conversation it sure isn't me.
I am just a fan, as are you. However the people who do this for a living, ie, the folks that work at the nhl network, tsn, Nbcsports, all disagree with your assesment of lunquist. This is a pointless conversation, and i am bowing out now. You are entitled to your opinion, however ridiculous i may think it is.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1310 on: May 14, 2015, 02:35:46 PM »
When the backup comes in and does better than the starter what does that tell you?
1- You are the only team that has two great goalies or
2 - The defense is more responsible for what is going on than you think.

Let gets this straight. The Hawks give up the least amount of goals and it is the defense. NY does it and it is the not one but two great goalies that did it? If there is a fool in this conversation it sure isn't me.


Talbot didn't play better than lundqvist. You forget lundqvist was around 17-3 in his past 20 games before Talbot came in. They both played very well this year.

Defense is very important, and the Rangers have great defense.
Combine great defense with great goaltending and you have the best record in the league.
One of 2 being excellent and the other average, you'll have a good/great team.

One of them being great and the other terrible, you'll have a bad team.
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Re: nhl
« Reply #1311 on: May 14, 2015, 02:37:23 PM »
...and they won two Cups.  ;)
And that had nothing to do with kane and toews.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1312 on: May 14, 2015, 02:52:55 PM »
And that had nothing to do with kane and toews.

IMO I would contribute the first to Dustin Byfuglien and the second to bryan Bickell.
To have a star such as Kane / Crosby is needed 100% for it to be the only factor... No.

There has to be an X factor to step up. Excuse me for bringing in NBA, for example Mike Miller hitting those threes in the finals.

The stars need to score, but you need someone else to step up.

Crawford has stepped up when needed the last round.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1316 on: May 14, 2015, 03:03:29 PM »

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1317 on: May 14, 2015, 04:07:40 PM »


When the backup comes in and does better than the starter what does that tell you?
1- You are the only team that has two great goalies or
2 - The defense is more responsible for what is going on than you think.



You left out the 3rd option- they have an amazing goalies coach.

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Re: nhl
« Reply #1319 on: May 14, 2015, 05:43:43 PM »
I am just a fan, as are you. However the people who do this for a living, ie, the folks that work at the nhl network, tsn, Nbcsports, all disagree with your assesment of lunquist. This is a pointless conversation, and i am bowing out now. You are entitled to your opinion, however ridiculous i may think it is.
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