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What are blockchains and bitcoins and what is the difference?
A blockchain is the fundamental element in a crypto currency system. A blockchain is an accounting ledger. Each block contains a bunch of journal entries (i.e. a chronological record of transactions) that gets encrypted (by miners) but can be downloaded and read by anyone on the network. Why the blockchain ledger is secure and how we can vouch for its integrity is a slightly more advanced topic.

An accounting ledger typically keeps track of money, and a blockchain is no different. But the only type of money that it can accurately track is digital money that lives on the blockchain network. So dollars, euros, etc are out. The digital money that lives on the blockchain is called a crypto currency, and the most well-known one at this time is Bitcoin.

Currently there are a few major blockchain networks: the Bitcoin Network, the Ethereum Network, and the Litecoin Network. Each one has its own currency, which are Bitcoin, Ether, and Litecoin, respectively.

I’m just a simple DDFer and not an accountant + cryptographer + hacker all at the same time. Can you make this a little simpler to understand?
Let’s try an analogy. There is a certain website called Dansdeals.com and it has quite a following. Some of the followers are just users/readers but others are more active and produce value for the website. When they provide value, they earn currency for their work – called “EQP” and “HT”. So we have something we will call the Dansdeals Blockchain Network that is simply a record keeper of various ongoing deals and it issues a native currency that is fractionable (10,000 EQP = 1 HT). This is similar to the Blockchain network recording financial transactions and issuing bitcoins. The ones who work for the network (miners) earn bitcoins and everyone else needs to buy it to participate.

The analogy improves if you imagine that the Dansdeals website visitors have to pay a small amount, let’s say 5 EQP, in order to access a deal or a code that is recorded on the network. If the website has 30,000 followers who love deals, but only 1,000 active members who earn EQP, then you can see that there is a need for a marketplace to be created where you can buy EQP for later use.

Of course, websites are not networks, and this analogy is far from perfect. But useful.

How much is a Bitcoin worth
No one knows. A few people are speculating its worth based on the potential that Bitcoin will one day become a major world currency that people use in their daily lives. Most people though are speculating its worth based on what the next new investor will pay them for it (google “Greater Fool Investing”).

Even if a crypto currency becomes dominant, who says it will be Bitcoin? Maybe it will be Schmitcoin?
This is completely possible. Bitcoin and Ether are the most likely at this point, but their long term survival is not at all guaranteed.

So why all the fuss about Bitcoin? Shouldn’t we wait for Schmitcoin and its cousins to come out?
You could, but you don’t want to ignore how hard it is to start up a network from scratch. It may be that as little as one person can create rival code to compete with the existing digital currencies and blockchains, but one person is not a network. You need a lot of highly technical and motivated people to join you and also to invest their time, energy, and money in making that network run. It’s a highly specialized group of people, and most of the people who would fit that profile are already tied up with an existing network. So it’s not impossible, especially in the long-term, but even if it does happen it would be unlikely to pop up overnight and so Vegas odds for Bitcoin are way shorter.

Let’s go back to the Dansdeals analogy. Imagine that Dansdeals is not the only such website, and there are other websites in existence that provide similar services. For the sake of the analogy let’s call them MMS and OMAAT. They too have big enough followings to survive independently, and even though each one offers a slightly different flavor that differentiates them, anyone on one of the networks could also get their most important needs met on one of the other networks. In this analogy, do you think it’s worth collecting EQP/HT or not? After all, Schmansdeals.com could open up one day and all the business could move there.

The argument for the difficulty of starting up a rival blockchain network is much stronger than in the analogy (especially if we start to include “smart contracts” in the discussion), but the basic idea that you need a critical mass of follows to be successful and compete with existing rivals is the same.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1140 on: November 14, 2018, 02:45:56 PM »
Wake me up when we are there. Where are all the scam defenders?  :)

Rough day for sure but it aint over.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1141 on: November 14, 2018, 02:48:19 PM »
...but it aint over.
Agree but I hear the fat lady is on standby.  :)
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1142 on: November 14, 2018, 03:17:59 PM »
Why do different exchanges have different prices for BC?
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« Reply #1143 on: November 14, 2018, 03:20:58 PM »
Agree but I hear the fat lady is on standby.  :)
What happened? I see gold just shot up.

This debate will likely last several years with gold and bitcoin trading withan inverse relationship. So I wouldn’t bother the fat lady quite yet  ;)

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1144 on: November 14, 2018, 03:25:34 PM »
This debate will likely last several years with gold and bitcoin trading withan inverse relationship. So I wouldn’t bother the fat lady quite yet  ;)
I will keep her on speed dial.  :)
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1145 on: November 20, 2018, 09:45:27 AM »
Ok I have two questions.
1 - Are we there yet?
2 - Is that the fat lady I am seeing?
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« Reply #1146 on: November 20, 2018, 10:07:15 AM »
Ok I have two questions.
1 - Are we there yet?
2 - Is that the fat lady I am seeing?

1. No

2. I dont think its her, a lot of people are overweight these days  ;)

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« Reply #1147 on: November 20, 2018, 10:15:41 AM »
2. I dont think its her, a lot of people are overweight these days  ;)
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1148 on: November 21, 2018, 03:20:44 AM »
BTC has been quietly trading in a very narrow range for over 20 weeks, it is either forming a bottom, or will break to below 3000.
Down 2000 points since it broke down from the narrow trading range.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1149 on: November 21, 2018, 08:28:05 AM »
You still holding to breaking 3k in the near future?
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1150 on: November 22, 2018, 05:38:28 PM »
Hot! You can now buy bitcoin for 30% less than it was just a few weeks ago!
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1151 on: November 22, 2018, 05:39:37 PM »
Wait for cyber monday!
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1152 on: November 24, 2018, 08:30:04 PM »
Wait for cyber monday!
good thing we waited. It's even cheaper now!
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« Reply #1153 on: November 24, 2018, 08:36:25 PM »
It's even cheaper now!
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1154 on: November 24, 2018, 09:10:47 PM »

I will cover this last short position I took @ $6320,over 2500 points since, it is very oversold here, but I do not think the low is in yet.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1155 on: November 24, 2018, 09:51:28 PM »
So y r u covering

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« Reply #1157 on: November 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM »
So y r u covering
Oversold here, taking profits for now.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1158 on: November 24, 2018, 09:56:20 PM »
Bitcoin - Stick A Fork In It - It's Done
The sad thing about those writing these articles , is they show up after the fact, he would have been credible if he wrote this article $3000 higher.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1159 on: November 24, 2018, 09:57:51 PM »
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