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Frequently Asked Questions

What are blockchains and bitcoins and what is the difference?
A blockchain is the fundamental element in a crypto currency system. A blockchain is an accounting ledger. Each block contains a bunch of journal entries (i.e. a chronological record of transactions) that gets encrypted (by miners) but can be downloaded and read by anyone on the network. Why the blockchain ledger is secure and how we can vouch for its integrity is a slightly more advanced topic.

An accounting ledger typically keeps track of money, and a blockchain is no different. But the only type of money that it can accurately track is digital money that lives on the blockchain network. So dollars, euros, etc are out. The digital money that lives on the blockchain is called a crypto currency, and the most well-known one at this time is Bitcoin.

Currently there are a few major blockchain networks: the Bitcoin Network, the Ethereum Network, and the Litecoin Network. Each one has its own currency, which are Bitcoin, Ether, and Litecoin, respectively.

I’m just a simple DDFer and not an accountant + cryptographer + hacker all at the same time. Can you make this a little simpler to understand?
Let’s try an analogy. There is a certain website called Dansdeals.com and it has quite a following. Some of the followers are just users/readers but others are more active and produce value for the website. When they provide value, they earn currency for their work – called “EQP” and “HT”. So we have something we will call the Dansdeals Blockchain Network that is simply a record keeper of various ongoing deals and it issues a native currency that is fractionable (10,000 EQP = 1 HT). This is similar to the Blockchain network recording financial transactions and issuing bitcoins. The ones who work for the network (miners) earn bitcoins and everyone else needs to buy it to participate.

The analogy improves if you imagine that the Dansdeals website visitors have to pay a small amount, let’s say 5 EQP, in order to access a deal or a code that is recorded on the network. If the website has 30,000 followers who love deals, but only 1,000 active members who earn EQP, then you can see that there is a need for a marketplace to be created where you can buy EQP for later use.

Of course, websites are not networks, and this analogy is far from perfect. But useful.

How much is a Bitcoin worth
No one knows. A few people are speculating its worth based on the potential that Bitcoin will one day become a major world currency that people use in their daily lives. Most people though are speculating its worth based on what the next new investor will pay them for it (google “Greater Fool Investing”).

Even if a crypto currency becomes dominant, who says it will be Bitcoin? Maybe it will be Schmitcoin?
This is completely possible. Bitcoin and Ether are the most likely at this point, but their long term survival is not at all guaranteed.

So why all the fuss about Bitcoin? Shouldn’t we wait for Schmitcoin and its cousins to come out?
You could, but you don’t want to ignore how hard it is to start up a network from scratch. It may be that as little as one person can create rival code to compete with the existing digital currencies and blockchains, but one person is not a network. You need a lot of highly technical and motivated people to join you and also to invest their time, energy, and money in making that network run. It’s a highly specialized group of people, and most of the people who would fit that profile are already tied up with an existing network. So it’s not impossible, especially in the long-term, but even if it does happen it would be unlikely to pop up overnight and so Vegas odds for Bitcoin are way shorter.

Let’s go back to the Dansdeals analogy. Imagine that Dansdeals is not the only such website, and there are other websites in existence that provide similar services. For the sake of the analogy let’s call them MMS and OMAAT. They too have big enough followings to survive independently, and even though each one offers a slightly different flavor that differentiates them, anyone on one of the networks could also get their most important needs met on one of the other networks. In this analogy, do you think it’s worth collecting EQP/HT or not? After all, Schmansdeals.com could open up one day and all the business could move there.

The argument for the difficulty of starting up a rival blockchain network is much stronger than in the analogy (especially if we start to include “smart contracts” in the discussion), but the basic idea that you need a critical mass of follows to be successful and compete with existing rivals is the same.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1920 on: January 10, 2024, 05:52:43 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1921 on: January 10, 2024, 05:57:51 PM »
Freedom of the press is alive at the US Mint.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1923 on: January 11, 2024, 09:18:56 AM »
Not sure how much will be lost in translation for those that need it. But this is a great piece.

https://x.com/ciitay/status/1745364412318331209
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1924 on: February 19, 2024, 02:39:40 PM »
anyone selling bitcoin?

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1925 on: February 19, 2024, 09:10:38 PM »

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1926 on: February 20, 2024, 09:15:14 PM »
Any thoughts on Fetch.AI... Deciding if I should sell

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1927 on: February 23, 2024, 07:15:37 AM »
anyone selling bitcoin?

coinbase. kraken gemini so many exchanges. u can also buy on robin hood. and cash app. square

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1928 on: February 27, 2024, 12:07:23 AM »
river financial is best imo. 

bitcoin only company
reasonable fees
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Fee free after 1 week of re-occuring buys

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1929 on: February 27, 2024, 12:08:08 AM »
Fidelity
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1930 on: February 27, 2024, 10:27:32 PM »
Fidelity

A big advantage with Fidelity is that they are a real company and unlikely to go the way of Voyager and those others that went belly up with customer assets unprotected.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1931 on: February 27, 2024, 10:54:10 PM »
Anybody know if I can donate Bitcoin held in Robinhood to a Donor Advised Fund?

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1932 on: February 28, 2024, 11:27:49 AM »
Anybody know if I can donate Bitcoin held in Robinhood to a Donor Advised Fund?

Look for a withdrawal option... i dont think RH has one, so you can't donate the coins. All you own is an iou and that cant be donated

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1933 on: February 29, 2024, 05:51:32 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1934 on: March 03, 2024, 02:27:09 PM »
Am I only one finding it amusing the first few years of this thread. This bitcoin thing was so unimaginable…..

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1936 on: March 06, 2024, 10:46:02 AM »
Thread.

https://x.com/MacroAlf/status/1763313267571556475?s=20
He leaves out the biggest difference between gold and crypto. This is that not all gold available in the world is used as a currency alternative.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1937 on: March 21, 2024, 02:28:50 PM »
Waiting to see people flock in when this current bull market is peaking

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1938 on: March 21, 2024, 02:39:08 PM »
Waiting to see people flock in when this current bull market is peaking
those same will sell when it drops...
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1939 on: March 21, 2024, 10:28:08 PM »
I would sell the few pennies I bought, but not worth the hassle.
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