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What are blockchains and bitcoins and what is the difference?
A blockchain is the fundamental element in a crypto currency system. A blockchain is an accounting ledger. Each block contains a bunch of journal entries (i.e. a chronological record of transactions) that gets encrypted (by miners) but can be downloaded and read by anyone on the network. Why the blockchain ledger is secure and how we can vouch for its integrity is a slightly more advanced topic.

An accounting ledger typically keeps track of money, and a blockchain is no different. But the only type of money that it can accurately track is digital money that lives on the blockchain network. So dollars, euros, etc are out. The digital money that lives on the blockchain is called a crypto currency, and the most well-known one at this time is Bitcoin.

Currently there are a few major blockchain networks: the Bitcoin Network, the Ethereum Network, and the Litecoin Network. Each one has its own currency, which are Bitcoin, Ether, and Litecoin, respectively.

I’m just a simple DDFer and not an accountant + cryptographer + hacker all at the same time. Can you make this a little simpler to understand?
Let’s try an analogy. There is a certain website called Dansdeals.com and it has quite a following. Some of the followers are just users/readers but others are more active and produce value for the website. When they provide value, they earn currency for their work – called “EQP” and “HT”. So we have something we will call the Dansdeals Blockchain Network that is simply a record keeper of various ongoing deals and it issues a native currency that is fractionable (10,000 EQP = 1 HT). This is similar to the Blockchain network recording financial transactions and issuing bitcoins. The ones who work for the network (miners) earn bitcoins and everyone else needs to buy it to participate.

The analogy improves if you imagine that the Dansdeals website visitors have to pay a small amount, let’s say 5 EQP, in order to access a deal or a code that is recorded on the network. If the website has 30,000 followers who love deals, but only 1,000 active members who earn EQP, then you can see that there is a need for a marketplace to be created where you can buy EQP for later use.

Of course, websites are not networks, and this analogy is far from perfect. But useful.

How much is a Bitcoin worth
No one knows. A few people are speculating its worth based on the potential that Bitcoin will one day become a major world currency that people use in their daily lives. Most people though are speculating its worth based on what the next new investor will pay them for it (google “Greater Fool Investing”).

Even if a crypto currency becomes dominant, who says it will be Bitcoin? Maybe it will be Schmitcoin?
This is completely possible. Bitcoin and Ether are the most likely at this point, but their long term survival is not at all guaranteed.

So why all the fuss about Bitcoin? Shouldn’t we wait for Schmitcoin and its cousins to come out?
You could, but you don’t want to ignore how hard it is to start up a network from scratch. It may be that as little as one person can create rival code to compete with the existing digital currencies and blockchains, but one person is not a network. You need a lot of highly technical and motivated people to join you and also to invest their time, energy, and money in making that network run. It’s a highly specialized group of people, and most of the people who would fit that profile are already tied up with an existing network. So it’s not impossible, especially in the long-term, but even if it does happen it would be unlikely to pop up overnight and so Vegas odds for Bitcoin are way shorter.

Let’s go back to the Dansdeals analogy. Imagine that Dansdeals is not the only such website, and there are other websites in existence that provide similar services. For the sake of the analogy let’s call them MMS and OMAAT. They too have big enough followings to survive independently, and even though each one offers a slightly different flavor that differentiates them, anyone on one of the networks could also get their most important needs met on one of the other networks. In this analogy, do you think it’s worth collecting EQP/HT or not? After all, Schmansdeals.com could open up one day and all the business could move there.

The argument for the difficulty of starting up a rival blockchain network is much stronger than in the analogy (especially if we start to include “smart contracts” in the discussion), but the basic idea that you need a critical mass of follows to be successful and compete with existing rivals is the same.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1400 on: January 28, 2021, 10:45:28 AM »
What's the hype that caused the DOGE Stock to double+?

  Never thought that thing would budge.
 Thinking to just pull out and take my gains.

  Those cryptocurrencies are so unstable, when there's a profit I'm thinking to grab it and run.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1401 on: January 28, 2021, 11:22:16 AM »
What's the hype that caused the DOGE Stock to double+?

  Never thought that thing would budge.
 Thinking to just pull out and take my gains.

  Those cryptocurrencies are so unstable, when there's a profit I'm thinking to grab it and run.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/wallstreetbets-fever-hits-dogecoin-price-soars-142-after-twitter-mention%3famp=1

Part of the Wallstreetbets hype

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1402 on: January 28, 2021, 12:29:35 PM »
What's the hype that caused the DOGE Stock to double+?

  Never thought that thing would budge.
 Thinking to just pull out and take my gains.

  Those cryptocurrencies are so unstable, when there's a profit I'm thinking to grab it and run.

SSB is attempting to do a pump and dump with DOGE. It started to get legs overnight which is daytime in Asia. In the US crypto is not nearly as popular so this morning it seems to be losing some steam. My personal guess is that a lot of people are going to confuse what's going on with DOGE now with what's going on with GME, and there will be a continued rise in interest for a short while, but then big holders will cash in because there's no meaning to it at all.

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« Reply #1403 on: January 28, 2021, 01:38:12 PM »
SSB is attempting to do a pump and dump with DOGE. It started to get legs overnight which is daytime in Asia. In the US crypto is not nearly as popular so this morning it seems to be losing some steam. My personal guess is that a lot of people are going to confuse what's going on with DOGE now with what's going on with GME, and there will be a continued rise in interest for a short while, but then big holders will cash in because there's no meaning to it at all.
So you would probably hold for the next day or so. And then sell off all what you have?

   Or I can just put a market sell price with robinhood to sell at a desired price and not be greedy.
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« Reply #1404 on: January 28, 2021, 01:55:07 PM »
So you would probably hold for the next day or so. And then sell off all what you have?

   Or I can just put a market sell price with robinhood to sell at a desired price and not be greedy.

Takes a lot of self-control to not be greedy!

I don't know what I'll do yet and even if I did, the last thing in the world anyone should do is use something I say to decide when to buy or sell. No matter what happens I don't stand to make or lose more than a few bucks anyway so I'm just another outsider. This feels like a classic pump and dump and nothing more though.

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« Reply #1405 on: January 28, 2021, 07:34:52 PM »
Takes a lot of self-control to not be greedy!

I don't know what I'll do yet and even if I did, the last thing in the world anyone should do is use something I say to decide when to buy or sell. No matter what happens I don't stand to make or lose more than a few bucks anyway so I'm just another outsider. This feels like a classic pump and dump and nothing more though.
Smart move I listened to you and did not put a stop.

  I'm now 4.6x my original investment.
 What was once 0.00012 is now 0.05.

   I guess I'll wait around for the next day or two and see what happens.

 only problem with crypto is have no clue what will happen over Shabbos.
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1406 on: January 28, 2021, 07:44:31 PM »
This feels like a classic pump and dump and nothing more though.
Plus since it isn't a security it isn't regulated and that isn't illegal
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1407 on: January 28, 2021, 10:23:31 PM »
SSB is attempting to do a pump and dump with DOGE. It started to get legs overnight which is daytime in Asia. In the US crypto is not nearly as popular so this morning it seems to be losing some steam. My personal guess is that a lot of people are going to confuse what's going on with DOGE now with what's going on with GME, and there will be a continued rise in interest for a short while, but then big holders will cash in because there's no meaning to it at all.
Any betting on what the DOGE coin is going to reach.
  Pretty cool to see it at almost $0.10
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« Reply #1408 on: January 29, 2021, 01:30:11 AM »
, but then big holders will cash in because there's no meaning to it at all.
Same as GME...
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1410 on: January 29, 2021, 09:48:01 AM »
Any betting on what the DOGE coin is going to reach.
  Pretty cool to see it at almost $0.10

IMHO - with 8 years of following crypto markets and being involved in DOGE since its launch - $0.10 seems incredibly unreasonably high and nearly impossible. It would have a higher market cap than Ripple at that level. Whoever is coordinating the pump and dump will dump by then.

Smart move I listened to you and did not put a stop.

  I'm now 4.6x my original investment.
 What was once 0.00012 is now 0.05.

   I guess I'll wait around for the next day or two and see what happens.

 only problem with crypto is have no clue what will happen over Shabbos.

So are you still 100% in? I set up 4 sell orders at different prices each for 25% of my holding to avoid missing out completely. One went through last night at 0.075. I'm way past a free ride at this point but I'd hate to still be holding onto any of this when it goes back to 0.001 again.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1411 on: January 29, 2021, 11:24:36 AM »
GME is the new bitcoin.

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« Reply #1413 on: January 29, 2021, 12:24:08 PM »
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« Reply #1415 on: February 04, 2021, 10:08:26 PM »
So this by no means is a "tip" and I am not even 1/1000th of an expert. This is simply to put something on your radar, if you play with altcoins. DYOR!

I believe XLM has been held artificially low over the past week while hundreds of other coins have popped. There have been a number of very large purchases made (millions of lumens each) over the last few days. I personally am long on XLM, but I think there may be a short term opportunity, as well.

I debated posting this, as this is pure speculation and I am no expert. But I would feel bad if I noticed something and didn't say anything. Again, DYOR and take this with a Dead Sea's worth of salt.
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« Reply #1416 on: February 05, 2021, 11:11:01 AM »
So this by no means is a "tip" and I am not even 1/1000th of an expert. This is simply to put something on your radar, if you play with altcoins. DYOR!

I believe XLM has been held artificially low over the past week while hundreds of other coins have popped. There have been a number of very large purchases made (millions of lumens each) over the last few days. I personally am long on XLM, but I think there may be a short term opportunity, as well.

I debated posting this, as this is pure speculation and I am no expert. But I would feel bad if I noticed something and didn't say anything. Again, DYOR and take this with a Dead Sea's worth of salt.
Which platform can one buy this on?

The cryptos are all doing amazing.
 ETH spiked like crazy.
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« Reply #1417 on: February 05, 2021, 11:17:19 AM »
Which platform can one buy this on?

The cryptos are all doing amazing.
 ETH spiked like crazy.

I'm pretty sure most major crypto exchanges have it listed. I personally use Bitstamp. Not posting a referral link, cuz I'm not sure what DDF's policy is on that.
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« Reply #1418 on: February 05, 2021, 11:21:24 AM »
I'm pretty sure most major crypto exchanges have it listed. I personally use Bitstamp. Not posting a referral link, cuz I'm not sure what DDF's policy is on that.
Coinbase or bitstamp?
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« Reply #1419 on: February 05, 2021, 11:24:24 AM »
Coinbase or bitstamp?

I like Bitstamp and their fees are reasonable, but I don't play enough with either to have much of an opinion. I'm sure there are others on here who dabble more who can help.
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