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What are blockchains and bitcoins and what is the difference?
A blockchain is the fundamental element in a crypto currency system. A blockchain is an accounting ledger. Each block contains a bunch of journal entries (i.e. a chronological record of transactions) that gets encrypted (by miners) but can be downloaded and read by anyone on the network. Why the blockchain ledger is secure and how we can vouch for its integrity is a slightly more advanced topic.

An accounting ledger typically keeps track of money, and a blockchain is no different. But the only type of money that it can accurately track is digital money that lives on the blockchain network. So dollars, euros, etc are out. The digital money that lives on the blockchain is called a crypto currency, and the most well-known one at this time is Bitcoin.

Currently there are a few major blockchain networks: the Bitcoin Network, the Ethereum Network, and the Litecoin Network. Each one has its own currency, which are Bitcoin, Ether, and Litecoin, respectively.

I’m just a simple DDFer and not an accountant + cryptographer + hacker all at the same time. Can you make this a little simpler to understand?
Let’s try an analogy. There is a certain website called Dansdeals.com and it has quite a following. Some of the followers are just users/readers but others are more active and produce value for the website. When they provide value, they earn currency for their work – called “EQP” and “HT”. So we have something we will call the Dansdeals Blockchain Network that is simply a record keeper of various ongoing deals and it issues a native currency that is fractionable (10,000 EQP = 1 HT). This is similar to the Blockchain network recording financial transactions and issuing bitcoins. The ones who work for the network (miners) earn bitcoins and everyone else needs to buy it to participate.

The analogy improves if you imagine that the Dansdeals website visitors have to pay a small amount, let’s say 5 EQP, in order to access a deal or a code that is recorded on the network. If the website has 30,000 followers who love deals, but only 1,000 active members who earn EQP, then you can see that there is a need for a marketplace to be created where you can buy EQP for later use.

Of course, websites are not networks, and this analogy is far from perfect. But useful.

How much is a Bitcoin worth
No one knows. A few people are speculating its worth based on the potential that Bitcoin will one day become a major world currency that people use in their daily lives. Most people though are speculating its worth based on what the next new investor will pay them for it (google “Greater Fool Investing”).

Even if a crypto currency becomes dominant, who says it will be Bitcoin? Maybe it will be Schmitcoin?
This is completely possible. Bitcoin and Ether are the most likely at this point, but their long term survival is not at all guaranteed.

So why all the fuss about Bitcoin? Shouldn’t we wait for Schmitcoin and its cousins to come out?
You could, but you don’t want to ignore how hard it is to start up a network from scratch. It may be that as little as one person can create rival code to compete with the existing digital currencies and blockchains, but one person is not a network. You need a lot of highly technical and motivated people to join you and also to invest their time, energy, and money in making that network run. It’s a highly specialized group of people, and most of the people who would fit that profile are already tied up with an existing network. So it’s not impossible, especially in the long-term, but even if it does happen it would be unlikely to pop up overnight and so Vegas odds for Bitcoin are way shorter.

Let’s go back to the Dansdeals analogy. Imagine that Dansdeals is not the only such website, and there are other websites in existence that provide similar services. For the sake of the analogy let’s call them MMS and OMAAT. They too have big enough followings to survive independently, and even though each one offers a slightly different flavor that differentiates them, anyone on one of the networks could also get their most important needs met on one of the other networks. In this analogy, do you think it’s worth collecting EQP/HT or not? After all, Schmansdeals.com could open up one day and all the business could move there.

The argument for the difficulty of starting up a rival blockchain network is much stronger than in the analogy (especially if we start to include “smart contracts” in the discussion), but the basic idea that you need a critical mass of follows to be successful and compete with existing rivals is the same.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1660 on: April 22, 2021, 12:56:34 AM »
Just looked at my coinbase history, ouch



Bought 3.0761 BTC for $873.02, worth $166k today. Sold about a year later for a small profit.
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« Reply #1661 on: April 22, 2021, 10:16:29 PM »
Wth is going on with alts???
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1662 on: April 22, 2021, 10:34:52 PM »
This is what was always going to happen. It may still bounce back yet again but if it does we will be back later. The drop will be precipitous and relentless.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1664 on: April 26, 2021, 12:23:10 PM »
This is what was always going to happen. It may still bounce back yet again but if it does we will be back later. The drop will be precipitous and relentless.

Yup. Alts are 95% trash and should be treated as such when "investing" into them. If you make money on them, sell and get out. HODLing is a valid strategy for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and maybe a few other coins but for most altcoins the best strategy is buy low when they are showing strength and sell them when they have unsustainable price surges. Those massive dumps that they all go through often takes weeks to recover and some do not reach that price ever again.

My perspective comes from being actively involved in crypto for 4+ years and making plenty of mistakes that has costed me A LOT of money. Greed and stubbornness (sticking with a trade too long)  are definitely the two biggest reasons people end up losing money even though at some point they made a significant amount of unrealized gains. One very basic strategy is to enter a projected target (reasonable) and sell 50-90% of your holdings and let the rest run. If you dont stick with your targets, you will never know when to sell because technically the coin can continue to go up. It could be that it will go up, but over time having discipline and structure in a wild market will make you a lot of money and also limit risk and preserve capital. Another trick is to ask yourself when your altcoin is up a lot (like 2-5x) if you would invest money at that point. If your answer is no or only a fraction of your current holding, its probably a good time to sell some.

The next few weeks and months will bring likely be the final phase of the crypto bullrun and its very important for have an exit/take profit/stop loss strategy in place so that you are not the one holding the altcoin bags that will at some point be down 70-95%. I have been there and its not fun, especially when capital is so valuable as new opportunities arise, both within crypto and in other markets. Good luck!

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1665 on: April 26, 2021, 12:24:39 PM »
Just looked at my coinbase history, ouch



Bought 3.0761 BTC for $873.02, worth $166k today. Sold about a year later for a small profit.

Wow. When did you buy and when did you sell?

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1666 on: April 26, 2021, 12:31:39 PM »
Wow. When did you buy and when did you sell?
Looks to me like the dates are in that photo (albeit without the year)
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1667 on: April 26, 2021, 01:01:45 PM »
Wow. When did you buy and when did you sell?

Bought in 2015, sold in 2016
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« Reply #1668 on: April 26, 2021, 04:12:50 PM »
Pesach Sheini Special: a second chance to take profits.
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« Reply #1669 on: April 26, 2021, 04:16:33 PM »
Pesach Sheini Special: a second chance to take profits.

So this whole time you were a Bitcoin marrano?

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« Reply #1670 on: April 26, 2021, 04:27:39 PM »
So this whole time you were a Bitcoin marrano?

I'd probably be better off if I was.
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« Reply #1671 on: April 27, 2021, 03:37:00 AM »
Yup. Alts are 95% trash and should be treated as such when "investing" into them. If you make money on them, sell and get out. HODLing is a valid strategy for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and maybe a few other coins but for most altcoins the best strategy is buy low when they are showing strength and sell them when they have unsustainable price surges. Those massive dumps that they all go through often takes weeks to recover and some do not reach that price ever again.

My perspective comes from being actively involved in crypto for 4+ years and making plenty of mistakes that has costed me A LOT of money. Greed and stubbornness (sticking with a trade too long)  are definitely the two biggest reasons people end up losing money even though at some point they made a significant amount of unrealized gains. One very basic strategy is to enter a projected target (reasonable) and sell 50-90% of your holdings and let the rest run. If you dont stick with your targets, you will never know when to sell because technically the coin can continue to go up. It could be that it will go up, but over time having discipline and structure in a wild market will make you a lot of money and also limit risk and preserve capital. Another trick is to ask yourself when your altcoin is up a lot (like 2-5x) if you would invest money at that point. If your answer is no or only a fraction of your current holding, its probably a good time to sell some.

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This x1000. Good write up.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1672 on: April 27, 2021, 11:03:52 PM »
https://www.chia.net/

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« Reply #1673 on: April 28, 2021, 07:29:20 AM »
https://www.chia.net/

One of many evolved blockchain technologies, let’s see which ones gain traction.
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One of many evolved blockchain technologies, let’s see which ones gain traction.
Are storage prices going to go up?
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Are storage prices going to go up?

Of course. There's a pandemic

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1679 on: May 04, 2021, 04:25:49 AM »
https://decrypt.co/69599/mark-cuban-dogecoin-crypto-bet-1-million?&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=feed&utm_source=robinhood
Amazing to see DOGE go back up.
 Good thing I added to my original holdings when it fell.

 Have a decent profit at the moment, ba'h.
 With this stock it's a total hit or miss when pulling out.
Either it goes up like crazy or plummets.

 I guess for the moment will hold.
 Currently at $0.48

 I can actually say I remember buying at $0.008 thinking what if one day this goes up.. LoL
 Then slowly bought more as it went up..

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