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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2024, 08:00:56 PM »
Just heard this 10 minutes ago
Why don’t we push off taanis Esther if we can’t do it b’zmano, just like you’d push off other fast days? We don’t want sad days to be pulled up, it should be pushed later.

Reason is bc taanis Esther is not a sad day. It’s a reenactment of the neis of Purim.  That the yidden fasted and did teshuva, and the yeshua came. So too by us we are doing the motions of teshuva to receive the yeshua.

 Taanis Esther is the beginning of the simcha of Purim
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2024, 10:32:19 PM »
Ofc it's related. The reason why it's more kal is because it's not a sad fast like the destruction of the Bais HaMikdash fast.
No, it's because it isn't a takana from the neviim

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2024, 10:34:38 PM »
Just heard this 10 minutes ago
Why don’t we push off taanis Esther if we can’t do it b’zmano, just like you’d push off other fast days? We don’t want sad days to be pulled up, it should be pushed later.

Reason is bc taanis Esther is not a sad day. It’s a reenactment of the neis of Purim.  That the yidden fasted and did teshuva, and the yeshua came. So too by us we are doing the motions of teshuva to receive the yeshua.

 Taanis Esther is the beginning of the simcha of Purim
Some are of the opinion that it's a zecher to the fasting they did during the war on י"ג, not  the fast of 3 days from the previous years.

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2024, 10:36:22 PM »
No, it's because it isn't a takana from the neviim
It's not a sad fast.
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2024, 10:37:01 PM »
It's not a sad fast.
Correct. That is also true, but not the reason it is more kal, as I mentioned earlier.

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2024, 11:06:54 PM »
Correct. That is also true, but not the reason it is more kal, as I mentioned earlier.
I saw R' Shmuel Kamentsky is quoted in Sefer Kovetz Halachos that even though other fasts we don't listen to music and shower, on Tannis Esther there is no reason to be Machimir since it's not Midivrei Kabblah AND not for a Tzarah that happened to our Avoiseinu.
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2024, 11:08:19 PM »
I saw R' Shmuel Kamentsky is quoted in Sefer Kovetz Halachos that even though other fasts we don't listen to music and shower, on Tannis Esther there is no reason to be Machimir since it's not Midivrei Kabblah AND not for a Tzarah that happened to our Avoiseinu.
That is with regard to bathing. Not the same as being able to break it for minor aliments

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2024, 11:34:19 PM »
Some are of the opinion that it's a zecher to the fasting they did during the war on י"ג, not  the fast of 3 days from the previous years.

Who says otherwise?
The fast of 3 days would be in a month from now not tomorrow,no?

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2024, 02:50:30 AM »
Just heard this 10 minutes ago
Why don’t we push off taanis Esther if we can’t do it b’zmano, just like you’d push off other fast days? We don’t want sad days to be pulled up, it should be pushed later.

Reason is bc taanis Esther is not a sad day. It’s a reenactment of the neis of Purim.  That the yidden fasted and did teshuva, and the yeshua came. So too by us we are doing the motions of teshuva to receive the yeshua.

 Taanis Esther is the beginning of the simcha of Purim
It’s the Ritva snd other rishonim. At least the teshuva part, not the simcha part. The Maggie mishna learns it’s a practical reason because Friday, Shabbos and Sunday don’t work out to fast.

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2024, 05:09:29 AM »
On a regular year, you're not supposed too!

Rabbi Berkovits wrote:
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There is an issur to eat or drink anything before the megillah. [Nothing to do with the fast, the fast is over.] This applies both by night and by morning. We are mekil in cases of necessity to have a טעימה. Practically, if it is difficult to continue fasting, one can drink and eat as much fruit (and similar) as one needs, but only a k’beitza of bread or mezonos.
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2024, 09:43:21 AM »
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2024, 09:47:22 AM »
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2024, 03:08:30 PM »
Reminder: Machzis hashekel today. For those that didn't give already.
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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2024, 07:47:40 PM »
interesting. The whole fast anyways is very maikel, so if you even have a headache by then, ensure you shall eat.
FYI- the reason not to eat and even be Toeim has nothing tp do with the fast, rather because of Mitzvas Megilla. Even Drinking is a Shayla in the Poskim.

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2024, 07:54:23 PM »
FYI- the reason not to eat and even be Toeim has nothing tp do with the fast, rather because of Mitzvas Megilla. Even Drinking is a Shayla in the Poskim.
Drinking doesn't mean water, iirc.

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Re: Purim - Master Thread
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2024, 08:27:38 PM »
FYI- the reason not to eat and even be Toeim has nothing tp do with the fast, rather because of Mitzvas Megilla. Even Drinking is a Shayla in the Poskim.
Ik. Was discussed
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