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What Primary GDS System Are You Using?

Sabre
48 (53.9%)
Amadeus
27 (30.3%)
Galileo
2 (2.2%)
WorldSpan
1 (1.1%)
Internet Based System
11 (12.4%)

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #860 on: February 02, 2016, 10:29:28 AM »
Okay, so no one will have El Al plates. And how will El Al make money? I mean its not that they are an airline like UA etc, they are very desperate on TAs and if they pull plates for this no one will have plates..
So putting your money where your mouth is, how much are you ready to bet that some TAs will pay to keep their plates?
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #861 on: February 02, 2016, 10:36:34 AM »
So putting your money where your mouth is, how much are you ready to bet that some TAs will pay to keep their plates?
I don't know. But that is precisely my question.  There aren't that many wholesalers with El Al. It does not take much effort to organize together. At least to work out a deal. They should've sent out a warning first.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #862 on: February 02, 2016, 10:42:25 AM »
I don't know. But that is precisely my question.  There aren't that many wholesalers with El Al. It does not take much effort to organize together. At least to work out a deal. They should've sent out a warning first.
No warning needed on hidden city (or ever truth be told). And the reason is that the Jewish agencies need them just as much, if not more than Elal needs the agents. It's true Elal needs the Agencies a lot more than DL/UA needs them, but it's still a codependent relationship.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #863 on: February 16, 2016, 04:20:09 PM »
Would this be the right place to ask this?
Looking for someone who can book 20 pax on a multi city itin with SN involves codeshare flights with AC & PS.
Expecting to pay price avalible on brusselsairlines.com Please PM for details
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #864 on: February 16, 2016, 04:24:55 PM »
Would this be the right place to ask this?
Looking for someone who can book 20 pax on a multi city itin with SN involves codeshare flights with AC & PS.
Expecting to pay price avalible on brusselsairlines.com Please PM for details
Why don't you just book it online?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #865 on: February 16, 2016, 04:32:48 PM »
Why don't you just book it online?
9 max I know i can book 9 and then see about the rest but i want to know the cost for the whole group before I commit to this route
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #866 on: February 18, 2016, 08:41:47 PM »
Anyone know if Amadeus works on Windows 10?

Did anyone get Amadeus install on a PC running W10 out of the box?

I just downgraded a laptop to win 7 for that reason...
Got it working on my new W10

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #867 on: February 18, 2016, 09:37:05 PM »
Got it working on my new W10
+1 I upgraded like a few months ago, was there ever an issue in the first place?
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #868 on: February 18, 2016, 09:38:31 PM »
+1 I upgraded like a few months ago, was there ever an issue in the first place?

Amadeus Tech does not install on Windows 10

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #869 on: February 18, 2016, 09:40:19 PM »
Amadeus Tech does not install on Windows 10
You mean you can't install afresh on PC with windows 10?


ETA: just relized I have windows 8.1 not 10 lol
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #870 on: February 18, 2016, 09:44:27 PM »
Once we are on this subject...
Anyone here have Amadeus on a tablet?
If yes which one would work with it and what mobile carrier has them (data wise)?
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #871 on: February 18, 2016, 09:44:49 PM »
You mean you can't install afresh on PC with windows 10?


ETA: just relized I have windows 8.1 not 10 lol

Correct. If you upgraded w8 to w10 its working. I managed to install it on a fresh W10

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #872 on: February 18, 2016, 09:45:44 PM »
Once we are on this subject...
Anyone here have Amadeus on a tablet?
If yes which one would work with it and what mobile carrier has them (data wise)?

You either use Team Viewer or Amadeus Selling Platform Connect, not sure what a difference it makes the mobile carrier

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #873 on: February 18, 2016, 09:48:49 PM »
You either use Team Viewer or Amadeus Selling Platform Connect, not sure what a difference it makes the mobile carrier
What I meant is more like clear stuff, for example some windows tablet that you can install GDS with direct mobile data connection  and would not have the fuzziness of TeamViewer etc...
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #874 on: February 18, 2016, 09:50:05 PM »
What I meant is more like clear stuff, for example some windows tablet that you can install GDS with direct mobile data connection  and would not have the fuzziness of TeamViewer etc...

My new laptop is a tablet well if you mean that....

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #875 on: February 18, 2016, 09:52:26 PM »
My new laptop is a tablet well if you mean that....
Yes I mean that but I want mobile data capubility like the surface 3 tablet but I can't find anything newer that has a mobile data plan.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #876 on: March 20, 2016, 04:35:10 PM »
Instructions for the "1+1" promo from J2 for Amadeus: (They sent me the Sabre version in a PDF in Russian. If anyone wants it, PM me and I'll forward it)

--- TST RLR SFP ---                                                             

RP/BAK1A0980/BAK1A0980            RM/SU  15MAR16/0705Z   2ZD2BT                 

  1.TEST/TEST MR (CMA)   2.TEST/TEST MRS(CMP)                               

  3  J2 101 J 09APR 6 GYDJFK HK2  0600 0930  09APR  E  J2/D37BW                 

  4  J2 102 J 16APR 6 JFKGYD HK2  1130 0700  17APR  E  J2/D37BW                 

 

FXP/FXB

FXB                                                                             

                                                                               

NO REBOOKING REQUIRED FOR LOWEST AVAILABLE FARE                                 

   PASSENGER         PTC    NP  FARE<AZN>     TAX   PER PSGR                   

01 TEST/TEST         ADT     1     884.60  192.60    1077.20                   

02 TEST/TEST         ADT     1     884.60  192.60    1077.20                   

                                                                               

                   TOTALS    2    1769.20  385.20    2154.40                                                                                       

 

TTS /P2

TTS/P2

TST00017     BAK1A0980 RM/16MAR I 5                  OD BAKBAK                 

T-                                                                             

FXB                                                                             

   2.TEST/TEST(CMP)                                                       

 1   GYD J2  101 T 09APR 0600  OK T2OW            09APR09APR 2PC               

 2 O JFK J2  102 T 16APR 1130  OK T2OW            16APR16APR 2PC               

     GYD                                                                       

FARE  F EUR     488.00                                                         

EQUIV   AZN     884.60                                                         

TX001 X AZN    11.00-YQAD TX002 X AZN    18.20-JLAP TX003 X AZN    36.30-AZDP   

TX004 X AZN    14.50-JBLO TX005 X AZN    18.20-JLSE TX006 X AZN     9.00-YCAE   

TX007 X AZN    29.10-USAP TX008 X AZN    29.10-USAS TX009 X AZN     6.50-XACO   

TX010 X AZN    11.50-XYCR TX011 X AZN     9.20-AYSE                             

TOTAL   AZN    1077.20    BSR 1.8127                                           

GRAND TOTAL AZN    1077.20                                                     

BAK J2 NYC265.67J2 BAK265.67NUC531.34END ROE0.918404                     

 

TTS/P2

ER

 

TTK/P2/FUSD0

ER

 

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TTP/P2/RT

 

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #877 on: March 31, 2016, 05:30:12 PM »
TA's should note that it seems that AA is stopping to allow 2 free checked bags between TLV and NYC effective today. I've only noticed the fact that they were allowing it a few weeks ago, but it had a quick death. Example from Sabre: (notice the difference between today and yesterdays)

Route:
 1 AA8374S 19APR T*TLVCDG HK2   600A 1005A SPM /DCAA* /E 
OPERATED BY EL AL ISRAEL AIRLINES                               
 2 AA 121S 19APR T CDGJFK*HK2   110P  345P SPM /DCAA* /E 
 3 AA6143V 05MAY Q JFKLHR HK2   755A  745P SPM /DCAA* /E 
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS                                     
 4 BA 163V 05MAY Q LHRTLV HK2  1040P  530A  06MAY F SPM         
                                               /DCBA* /E 

WPŤ                                                             
19APR DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 02APR/2359       
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL   
 2-    USD489.00                    391.59XT       USD880.59ADT
    XT    230.00YR      35.60US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            3.96XA       5.60AY      24.63IL       9.10FR       
           20.90QX      44.80UB       4.50XF                   
          978.00                    783.18           1761.18TTL
ADT-02  SKEELF2W VLE0F6R5                                       
 TLV AA X/PAR AA NYC M184.50AA X/LON BA TLV M304.50NUC489.00   
 END ROE1.00 XFJFK4.5                                           
NO RFND/CHANGE FEE APPLIES                                     
RESTRICTIONS APPLY                                             
VALIDATING CARRIER - AA                                         
ALTERNATE VALIDATING CARRIER/S - BA                             
BAG ALLOWANCE     -TLVJFK-01P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
2NDCHECKED BAG FEE-TLVJFK-USD100.00/AA/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 KILOG
RAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS**       
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JFKTLV-01P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 ‡
WPB30MAR16Ť                                                     
19APR DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 02APR/2359       
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL   
 2-    USD489.00                    391.29XT       USD880.29ADT
    XT    230.00YR      35.60US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            3.96XA       5.60AY      24.63IL       9.10FR       
           20.90QX      44.50UB       4.50XF                   
          978.00                    782.58           1760.58TTL
ADT-02  SKEELF2W VLE0F6R5                                       
 TLV AA X/PAR AA NYC M184.50AA X/LON BA TLV M304.50NUC489.00   
 END ROE1.00 XFJFK4.5                                           
NO RFND/CHANGE FEE APPLIES                                     
RESTRICTIONS APPLY                                             
VALIDATING CARRIER - AA                                         
ALTERNATE VALIDATING CARRIER/S - BA                             
BAG ALLOWANCE     -TLVJFK-02P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JFKTLV-02P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #878 on: April 03, 2016, 04:25:53 PM »
Who ever didn't manage yet to install Amadeus on Windows 10, you can try now as its officially supported

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #879 on: April 03, 2016, 04:36:22 PM »
Being that 'tis the season, I will write a brief post regarding even exchanges in Sabre. I am referring to INVOL situations such as BRU where you are reprotecting pax. This post will probably require some updating so I will come back and edit it when I have the chance. Feedback welcome, as there is always going to be something to add.

There are a few levels of even exchange
SCENARIO A
You have an autoexchange that price as $0.00 difference and you just have to remove the penalty (Sabre autoexchange will not allow you to adjust penalty to 0, so you will either have to adjust in ARC or manual exchange)

Before we start scenario B and C I strongly recommend (at least for windows users. I don't know if this is possible for MAC) that you keep 2 tabs open side by side and have the PQ (you did save one by ticketing, right?) or at least the original ETR open in one tab while you work on the other tab

SCENARIO B
There is a difference in price, but it does in fact price with WFR.
1) In such a situation you will start the exchange mask using WFRTR2 (if ticket being exchanged is line 2), add you qualifiers such as segment select, passenger type, upsell, etc.
Say a tefilla and if you X all the down and next you don't get "NO FARE FOR CLASS USED" You may have just cut your work by 75%
We will start with manual pricing, but if it autoprices, thank the lord and skip to step 5
2) Auto-Manual Pricing
If you were unable to get past the screen where you are able to insert farebasis and putting a "P" in the P/M box says "NO FARE" then the first thing to try is putting in the original f/bs and designators in the appropriate boxes. Outbound fares for outbound and return for return. Hit P and see if that will price. If yes, continue to step 5, if not continue below.
3) The boxes all the way on the right are for the fare amount per segment. If you have the pricing info open in another tab, just look at the pricing of each fare sector and input it on the top box of the last segment before the fare break. (not the Q box). If you get to the fare calc page, great and continue to step 5, if not continue below
4) Fully M pricing
Just make sure the taxes all match the original ticket exactly, and then move onto the fare calc mask
5) Fare Calc Mask
Here you have to put in the fare calculation exactly as it was in the original ticket. Hit next.
6) Comparison Screen
If you have done everything correctly, the base difference should be $0. If taxes are off, X by tax comparison, then X by tax update, and manually correct all the taxes to be the same.

You should now hopefully have a difference of $0. Personally I'm a fan of first retaining, saving, and then issuing off PQR. Less of a chance to get a simultaneous for being in the record too long.

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