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What Primary GDS System Are You Using?

Sabre
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Amadeus
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Galileo
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WorldSpan
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1180 on: February 26, 2018, 02:10:00 PM »
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1181 on: March 11, 2018, 09:49:09 PM »
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1182 on: April 15, 2018, 04:28:00 PM »
My client booked a flight MIA-EWR-FCO // VCE-FRA-MIA on UA 1959 and UA 40. (back on LH)
UA1959 had delays and was going to misconnect - so i called UA and they offered to Re-accomodate client to LH 463 and LH 232 (MIA-FRA-FCO)
The flight was an upgrade from "P", to "F" and "J".. due to the impending mis-connect.
Yes the clients and I were thanking UA very much and excited for their amazing service and the coming A380 experience.

One Pax went through on online checkin one the system didn't check-in properly online.
so one had a boarding pass in hand - one did not.

They went to the check-in desk and LH manager not only denied them boarding but threatened to take the boarding pass away from the lady, telling her - UA should not have put you in 1st and I would rather those seats fly empty than have you in them!
The other pax she says paid 10k+ and they don't deserve to fly in that cabin. (they paid around 3-4k each)

Granted the pax did NOT request first class - and offered to be put into business class UA - the UA agents had no business class inventory open - there were only 2 seats in F on the plane and the agents at their discretion put these pax in F.

The ruthlessness to a Rev Biz pax Is shocking.. She then said "we can't help you - go to United".

LH is likely in violation of DOT laws...
Granted they may not be happy about what UA did - taking their last 2 F class seats 3 hours before departure..
BUT - A. this is all above the table - PAX did nothing wrong UA did the exchange - and if LH wants to bump someone AND downgrade post TICKETING - that is 2 laws broken in 1 fell swoop.

Where would you start? Clients are furious at what the manager did and want to pursue this - where would you start?
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1183 on: April 15, 2018, 04:54:02 PM »
My client booked a flight MIA-EWR-FCO // VCE-FRA-MIA on UA 1959 and UA 40. (back on LH)
UA1959 had delays and was going to misconnect - so i called UA and they offered to Re-accomodate client to LH 463 and LH 232 (MIA-FRA-FCO)
The flight was an upgrade from "P", to "F" and "J".. due to the impending mis-connect.
Yes the clients and I were thanking UA very much and excited for their amazing service and the coming A380 experience.

One Pax went through on online checkin one the system didn't check-in properly online.
so one had a boarding pass in hand - one did not.

They went to the check-in desk and LH manager not only denied them boarding but threatened to take the boarding pass away from the lady, telling her - UA should not have put you in 1st and I would rather those seats fly empty than have you in them!
The other pax she says paid 10k+ and they don't deserve to fly in that cabin. (they paid around 3-4k each)

Granted the pax did NOT request first class - and offered to be put into business class UA - the UA agents had no business class inventory open - there were only 2 seats in F on the plane and the agents at their discretion put these pax in F.

The ruthlessness to a Rev Biz pax Is shocking.. She then said "we can't help you - go to United".

LH is likely in violation of DOT laws...
Granted they may not be happy about what UA did - taking their last 2 F class seats 3 hours before departure..
BUT - A. this is all above the table - PAX did nothing wrong UA did the exchange - and if LH wants to bump someone AND downgrade post TICKETING - that is 2 laws broken in 1 fell swoop.

Where would you start? Clients are furious at what the manager did and want to pursue this - where would you start?
Sounds like this story:
HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1184 on: April 15, 2018, 04:59:12 PM »
yup identical..
Filed DOT...
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1185 on: April 15, 2018, 08:51:58 PM »
Is possible for someone to get by himself access to gds ? Or need to go under a wholesaler?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1186 on: April 15, 2018, 10:17:29 PM »
Is possible for someone to get by himself access to gds ? Or need to go under a wholesaler?
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1187 on: April 16, 2018, 12:04:12 AM »
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
Same with Amedeus?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1188 on: April 16, 2018, 12:05:47 AM »

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1189 on: April 16, 2018, 12:33:27 AM »
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
And what do i need to qualify?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1190 on: April 16, 2018, 04:52:51 AM »
And what do i need to qualify?
Nothing if you just want the system.
If you want ticketing... read up on iata qualification reqs
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1191 on: April 16, 2018, 09:07:43 AM »
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
Nothing if you just want the system.
If you want ticketing... read up on iata qualification reqs
It's ARC in the USA, not IATA

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1192 on: April 19, 2018, 05:07:52 PM »
back to the AZ INFT issue, I have a pax with an unborn baby wanting to travel for Sukkos, will it help to add a fake baby now to the PNR and update it when baby is born? or once you delete the 3INFT to replace it the new one may come back UC?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1193 on: April 19, 2018, 09:50:45 PM »
yup identical..
Filed DOT...
Don't hold your breath. The airline will stick up for LH like they did with LY.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1194 on: May 01, 2018, 06:16:05 PM »
DL     CHILON       26JUN18          MPM  4749               
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1A  ZH1X86D2       Z‡R   900.00        T10MY 28/3 SU/12M AT01
 :o :o :o :o
$900 base fare looks like a price mistake - like they filed 2k below by accident...

ORD to LHR

02.DAY/TIME                                                     
   FROM UNITED STATES -                                         
     PERMITTED TUE THROUGH FRI ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC           
     SECTOR.                                                   
   TO UNITED STATES -                                           
     PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC           
     SECTOR.

03.SEASONALITY                                                 ‡
MD«                                                             
   OUTBOUND -                                                  ‡
     PERMITTED 25MAR THROUGH 01APR OR 20JUN THROUGH 29AUG       
     OR 18NOV THROUGH 25NOV OR 12DEC THROUGH 02JAN             
   INBOUND -                                                   
     OR 01APR THROUGH 12APR OR 20JUN THROUGH 11SEP OR           
     21NOV THROUGH 29NOV OR 19DEC THROUGH 05JAN FOR EACH       
     TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.

08.STOPOVERS                                                   
   NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
10.COMBINATIONS                                                 
    END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS                                           
   FOOTNOTE RULE                                               
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 10MAY18.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1195 on: May 01, 2018, 06:42:25 PM »
Nothing if you just want the system.
If you want ticketing... read up on iata qualification reqs

I would assume you would agent license or something like that.

How much would it cost to set a whole system yourself?
How come all travel agents dont do it and instead work off others people system?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1196 on: May 15, 2018, 09:10:45 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with 4D, more specifically any info on if they will throughcheck baggage to MS when ticketed separately?

Seems they do have valid throughfares,

Code: [Select]
FQJNBTLV-MS« 
  1  ¤SNIZA/PV       S R   258.00        T31MY  -    -/ 1M EH01
  2  ¤LNIZA/PV       L R   294.00        T31MY  -    -/12M EH01
  3   SNIZA          S R   344.00     ----      -    -/ 1M EH01

so there must be some sort of arrangement, yet:

Code: [Select]
W/*4D‡*MS«                                                     
 4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                                     
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                 
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       MS                                                       
                                                               
W/*MS‡*4D«                                                     
 MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                       
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                               
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       4D   

 

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1197 on: May 15, 2018, 09:11:54 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with 4D, more specifically any info on if they will throughcheck baggage to MS when ticketed separately?

Seems they do have valid throughfares,

Code: [Select]
FQJNBTLV-MS« 
  1  ¤SNIZA/PV       S R   258.00        T31MY  -    -/ 1M EH01
  2  ¤LNIZA/PV       L R   294.00        T31MY  -    -/12M EH01
  3   SNIZA          S R   344.00     ----      -    -/ 1M EH01

so there must be some sort of arrangement, yet:

Code: [Select]
W/*4D‡*MS«                                                     
 4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                                     
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                 
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       MS                                                       
                                                               
W/*MS‡*4D«                                                     
 MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                       
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                               
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       4D   
It's the same airline let's now forget

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1198 on: May 15, 2018, 09:15:36 PM »
It's the same airline let's now forget
But this is a unique situation, so wondering if anyone had any first hand experience.
Would you give a client 2 hour connection like this? (Same reloc)

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #1199 on: May 16, 2018, 10:30:02 AM »
Prices as one ticket

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FXR                                                                             
                                                                               
01 P1                                                                           
NO REBOOKING REQUIRED FOR LOWEST AVAILABLE FARE                                 
LAST TKT DTE 25JUN18 - DATE OF ORIGIN                                           
------------------------------------------------------------                   
     AL FLGT  BK   DATE  TIME  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA   BG                   
 JNB                                                                           
XCAI MS   840 V    25JUN 2145  VNIZAO          25JUN25JUN 2P                   
 TLV 4D    54 Y    26JUN 0855  VNIZAO          26JUN26JUN 2P                   
                                                                               
ZAR  3610.00      25JUN18JNB MS X/CAI 4D TLV302.37VNIZAO NUC                   
USD   294.00      302.37END ROE11.938740                                       
USD     1.63YQ    XT USD 94.50YR USD 1.92EV USD 19.40ZA USD                     
USD     5.00YQ    1.87UM USD 15.48WC USD 1.00EQ                                 
USD   134.17XT                                                                 
USD   434.80                                                                   
RATE USED 1ZAR=0.08149USD                                                       
BAG/SEAT AT A CHARGE MAY BE AVAILABLE-ENTER FXK                                 
BG CXR: 2*MS                                                                   
PRICED WITH VALIDATING CARRIER MS - REPRICE IF DIFFERENT VC