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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #340 on: September 21, 2014, 09:11:30 AM »

Idealistic + Airline Business = Failure  ;)

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #341 on: September 21, 2014, 09:14:41 AM »
Does anyone here issue there own EMD's for LY ECO PLUS or EXIT SEATING?
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #342 on: September 21, 2014, 09:17:35 AM »

Does anyone here issue there own EMD's for LY ECO PLUS or EXIT SEATING?
emd ?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #343 on: September 21, 2014, 09:19:18 AM »
emd ?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #344 on: September 21, 2014, 09:20:01 AM »

Electronic Miscellaneous Document used to collect the fees.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #345 on: September 21, 2014, 11:24:12 AM »
Depending on the airline you will get get hit with a debit memo. Turkish and Lufthansa are very aggressive now with breaking married segments.

When you sell a broken segment and get availability which otherwise does not exist it does not automatically fall in to married segment 'logic" and get starred. You will have a broken married segment itinerary.

I think my question was a little different, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. I'm not saying booking on a leg which only has availability as part of a married pair. I understand that would lead to trouble. I mean booking A->B and B->C where valid fares and availability exists for both but it is still cheaper than the lowest available fare A->C (even when transiting B)- as described here. Would that work, and would it get you in trouble?

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #346 on: September 21, 2014, 11:24:12 AM »
Does anyone here issue there own EMD's for LY ECO PLUS or EXIT SEATING?
In Amadeus I know

An EMD is an ARC document (except UA).
Trams requires you to invoice Amadeus-EMD's manually
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #347 on: September 21, 2014, 11:24:56 AM »
DL is very aware and knows of abuse however they are still trying to formulate a way to deal with things. Although, if you issue a Korean flight on DL it doesn't matter. Korean will suspend you from ARC in an instant for the slightest infraction.

Validating carrier is usually the ones sending the ADM's as it's their ticket stock.
KE shuts down ticketing very fast and no way of getting it back

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #348 on: September 21, 2014, 11:26:40 AM »
Depending on the airline you will get get hit with a debit memo. Turkish and Lufthansa are very aggressive now with breaking married segments.

When you sell a broken segment and get availability which otherwise does not exist it does not automatically fall in to married segment 'logic" and get starred. You will have a broken married segment itinerary.
Airline call breaking MS even by selling segment by segment, (ex. JFK-CDG then CDG-TLV).
AF sends ADMs for 500€ and AZ 600€ per pax

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #350 on: September 21, 2014, 12:55:02 PM »
I think my question was a little different, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. I'm not saying booking on a leg which only has availability as part of a married pair. I understand that would lead to trouble. I mean booking A->B and B->C where valid fares and availability exists for both but it is still cheaper than the lowest available fare A->C (even when transiting B)- as described here. Would that work, and would it get you in trouble?

As Chff explained when you sell from availability it needs to be origin to destination. If you are leaving from NYC and are stopping in Paris on the way to Tel Aviv your destination is Tel Aviv. You are not allowed to sell JFK-PAR and then PAR-TLV it needs to be JFK-TLV. Airlines determine fares based on markets not point to point trips hence the advent of married segments. If you don't sell as such you are breaking married segments and you most likely will be penalized for it.

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #351 on: September 21, 2014, 12:56:23 PM »
In Amadeus I know

An EMD is an ARC document (except UA).
Trams requires you to invoice Amadeus-EMD's manually

Lucky you. So you never call LY to issue when a customer wants to upgrd?
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #352 on: September 21, 2014, 12:57:35 PM »
Lucky you. So you never call LY to issue when a customer wants to upgrd?
Can be done in Sabre as well. Why not just call your support desk. They get paid to help ;)
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #353 on: September 21, 2014, 12:58:57 PM »
Can be done in Sabre as well. Why not just call your support desk. They get paid to help ;)

I thought LY only wants it done in Amadeus.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #354 on: September 21, 2014, 01:01:02 PM »
I thought LY only wants it done in Amadeus.

Gotta get with the program bud :)

They initially rolled it out for Amadeus only, but it's been available on Sabre for a few months now
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« Reply #355 on: September 21, 2014, 01:03:52 PM »
Gotta get with the program bud :)

They initially rolled it out for Amadeus only, but it's been available on Sabre for a few months now

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #356 on: September 21, 2014, 01:30:08 PM »
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #357 on: September 21, 2014, 03:24:56 PM »
With DL if you wait 24 hours before issuing the ticket they don't send DM.
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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #358 on: September 21, 2014, 06:11:30 PM »
Airline call breaking MS even by selling segment by segment, (ex. JFK-CDG then CDG-TLV).
AF sends ADMs for 500€ and AZ 600€ per pax

As Chff explained when you sell from availability it needs to be origin to destination. If you are leaving from NYC and are stopping in Paris on the way to Tel Aviv your destination is Tel Aviv. You are not allowed to sell JFK-PAR and then PAR-TLV it needs to be JFK-TLV. Airlines determine fares based on markets not point to point trips hence the advent of married segments. If you don't sell as such you are breaking married segments and you most likely will be penalized for it.

It does not matter if 'L' class is available either way you search.

Thanks for the info! Now I wonder if they send a debit memo to themselves when you get it by multi-segment on the airline's own website  :P

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Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
« Reply #359 on: September 21, 2014, 10:10:52 PM »
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