Author Topic: david brooks column in todays nyt about orthodox jews (Read 3643 times)

asd · « **on:** March 08, 2013, 09:39:55 AM »

read it(very positive) and then read the comments, boy do they hate us

whacked1 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2013, 09:47:23 AM »

Link?

Esther · « **Reply #2 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:06:05 AM »

Quote from: whacked1 on March 08, 2013, 09:47:23 AM

Link?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/opinion/brooks-the-orthodox-surge.html?hp&_r=0

jj1000 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:23:36 AM »

Quote from: Esther on March 08, 2013, 10:06:05 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/opinion/brooks-the-orthodox-surge.html?hp&_r=0

Thank you very much for the link!

Some of these comments are jems and I'd love to talk face to face with the authors but one I glanced at just cracked me up with how he ended it.

"I grew up in the Midwood section in the 1960's where first generation jews and italians lived and worked to play out the American dream. There was a small orthodox temple in a private house on my block on Ocean Avenue and avenue L. They had their own school and temple and kept far away from us,the secular jews.
There was no melting pot by and large they did not go to college and become doctors and lawyers like the rest of us but became traders in their world of diamonds,jewelry and electronic stores.
Their love of learning was restricted to the fundamentalist world of Torah and very little tolerance for anything else. Lived happily sequestered in the world of 19th century Poland. There will be little original or progressive thinking, none of the wonderful,powerful accomplishments of the secular jews who gave us a trove of Nobel prize winners in Science and Literature.
I mourn for Jerusalem and what my religion is turning in to."

Does he not realize that he is the one changing the religion? The orthodox are not turning it into anything, that is what reform tries to do... Just laughable IMHO.

dhalpern1 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:29:18 AM »

Quote from: jj1000 on March 08, 2013, 10:23:36 AM

Some of these comments are jems and I'd love to talk face to face with the authors but one I glanced at just cracked me up with how he ended it.

Theres not enough time in a lifetime to do that when you add the comments from the NYTimes, CNN, MSNBC and almost all of the major media outlets. I always find myself regretting reading the comments.

meshugener · « **Reply #5 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:32:03 AM »

I wonder how Pomegranate pulled off such a good marketing shtick.

I read Brooks on a regular basis, very intellectual. He often quotes Harav JB of YU in his articles.

HelpMe · « **Reply #6 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:32:32 AM »

Quote from: asd on March 08, 2013, 09:39:55 AM

read it(very positive) and then read the comments, boy do they hate us

Who would they be?

meshugener · « **Reply #7 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:33:49 AM »

Reform Jews.

HelpMe · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:44:57 AM »

Quote from: meshugener on March 08, 2013, 10:33:49 AM

Reform Jews.

Reform (insert any word) is never a good thing.

dhalpern1 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2013, 11:03:46 AM »

Quote from: meshugener on March 08, 2013, 10:33:49 AM

Reform Jews.

I dont think its just Reform Jews commenting (negatively).

Moshe123 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2013, 11:35:47 AM »

Way too short article. And it's not only the modox as this article says.

Chaikel · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2013, 11:38:39 AM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on March 08, 2013, 11:35:47 AM

Way too short article. And it's not only the modox as this article says.

Lol, you misread that, as I did. He didn't write Modern Orthodox, he wrote the modern Orthodox. Big difference

Moshe123 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:05:17 PM »

Quote from: Chaikel on March 08, 2013, 11:38:39 AM

Lol, you misread that, as I did. He didn't write Modern Orthodox, he wrote the modern Orthodox. Big difference

Well, ok.

Most Modox don't live in Flatbush as we call it.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:29:48 PM »

Some very nice comments too.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:36:35 PM »

I was reading the editor's pick. Yeah, the "all" one is full of those self-hating Jews and Jew-hating liberals.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:38:31 PM »

Favorite comment:

Hard to imagine their growth will continue. Orthodox families face costs 300% greater than the rest of society. They send their kids to private schools, while still paying huge property tax bills, and buy exorbinantly expensive kosher food. As incomes decline, particularly for upper middle class white collar jobs, the Orthodox model will collapse.

LOLOLOLOLOL

asd · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:39:50 PM »

click on readers pick to see the hatred, the editors cleaned it up.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:40:34 PM »

And this:

Mr. Brooks, come live up here near Kiryas Joel for a year and then re-think your story

Haha. And stay away from Willi!

Moshe123 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:42:47 PM »

Quote from: asd on March 08, 2013, 12:39:50 PM

click on readers pick to see the hatred the editors cleaned it up.

Only liberals read the NYT as their newspaper. Sorry, to those that I offended.

Ergel · « **Reply #19 on:** March 08, 2013, 01:02:01 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on March 08, 2013, 12:38:31 PM

Favorite comment:

Hard to imagine their growth will continue. Orthodox families face costs 300% greater than the rest of society. They send their kids to private schools, while still paying huge property tax bills, and buy exorbinantly expensive kosher food. As incomes decline, particularly for upper middle class white collar jobs, the Orthodox model will collapse.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Up until the last line it is 100% true