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Hong Kong Island:
Things to do:
-Victoria Peak (tram),
-Ngong Ping 360 Glass bottom cable car (big Buddha),
-Downtown area
-Pink dolphin watching
-Ozone  Bar
-Tailors (Jantzen, tai panin admiraltyi cntr)
-Big Bus Tour
-Star ferry to Kowloon

Kosher Grocery Stores:
KosherMart On Hong Kong Island in the JCC
Kosher Original in Kowloon

Where to eat:
JCC Sunday night buffet can't be missed.
JCC Pizza - (Not open in the Summer)
Seven Zero - Dairy Resturant in the JCC
JCC Chinese
Shalom grill restaurant reported permanently closed by Mech
Shalom grill kosher market

Places to stay:
Grand Hyatt hotel
Mandarin Oriental Hotel
Four Seasons

Kowloon:
Things to do:
-8:00pm Laser show
-Ladies market
-Ave. of stars- pier
-Museums (science, space)
-Diamond hill- nan lian garden/chi Lin nunnery
-Big Bus Tour
-Star ferry to Hong Kong Island
-Drinks at Felix (Peninsula Hotel)
-Drinks in the Lobby (Intercontinental Hotel)


Only place to eat:
Mul Hayam Restaurant at Kehilat Zion (Breakfast is now $100 HKD)

Places to stay:
The W Hotel - Great Hotel but far from Synagogues
Grand Stamford Intercontinental Hotel - next to Chabad (for Shabbos),
Intercontinental Hong Kong, Sheraton, Shangri la , Peninsula, Hyatt regency. (All these hotels are in great locations if you would like to be near KZ. You can also walk through the TST subway station to KZ from all these except IC Grand Stamford and Shangri La which is next door) 

Shuls
Kehilat Zion -Location: Unit 105, 1/F Wing On Plaza 62 Mody Road East Tsim Sha Tsui Kowloon kzionhk@yahoo.com, or call: (852) 2366 6364 (office) or (852) 2368 0061
Chabad - Location:  67-71 Chatham Road, Oriental Centre 1/F Unit D, Tsim Sha Tsui  Telephone:  (852) 2366 5770  Mobile Tel.: (852) 9674 4450  Email: kowloon@chabadhk.org

Macau: (Ferry from hkg)
-Casinos (las Vegas style hotels),
-Curque like water show
-aj hachet tower (bungi)

-Disney

Lhasa:
Lake, pilgrims , culture

Airline Checkin Counters: Kowloon Station (below the W Hotel) to check your bags in. You then take the MRT straight to the airport (with just a couple of stops). It's super convenient and quick. You don't have to stay at the W to check in at Kowloon station though (and FWIW you can check in at Hong Kong station on HKI, too).


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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2010, 10:34:46 AM »
Dan, u wanted to try turkish first class. Jfk-ist-hkg is all with the 777. The lease of turkish on these planes expires next year, i think you should consider it.


Would require a full day stopover in Istanbul which is not recommended at the moment.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2010, 10:39:44 AM »
Would require a full day stopover in Istanbul which is not recommended at the moment.

You might want to check out the Turkey Master thread before staying in Istanbul.
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2010, 10:45:51 AM »
Would require a full day stopover in Istanbul which is not recommended at the moment.

I did it a week ago and was given a horrible "4*" hotel complimentary by THY.... IT was a nightmare!! no AC, and the water was off for 2 hours, and I opted to stay in the hotel the entire time. In a week I fly through once more, this time overnight, but I booked my own hotel, great rate at the airport courtyard (brand new) for $72 after taxes.. (normally $150-200)..

Airport is not at all dangerous and I personally don't see any problems in going to any hotels and hanging out there.

Surprisingly quite a few people working in the airport including Passport security, airline workers and some at dutyfree said shalom and were very friendly, I believe there are still people secular nice people who prefer israelis over fanatic muslims...

oh, and there is also a hotel inside the terminal so you don't even need to enter turkey.. It's pricey though!

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2010, 10:55:07 AM »
I did it a week ago and was given a horrible "4*" hotel complimentary by THY.... IT was a nightmare!! no AC, and the water was off for 2 hours, and I opted to stay in the hotel the entire time. In a week I fly through once more, this time overnight, but I booked my own hotel, great rate at the airport courtyard (brand new) for $72 after taxes.. (normally $150-200)..

Airport is not at all dangerous and I personally don't see any problems in going to any hotels and hanging out there.

Surprisingly quite a few people working in the airport including Passport security, airline workers and some at dutyfree said shalom and were very friendly, I believe there are still people secular nice people who prefer israelis over fanatic muslims...

oh, and there is also a hotel inside the terminal so you don't even need to enter turkey.. It's pricey though!
Its the airport hotel, not very nice, with 2 entrances, one before and one after customs.

there are some very nice people in Turkey, I love turkey, however just one guy thats a fanatic spots you...

People are already stupid enough sometimes, no need to encourage please.

I did already loads of crazy SHIfT in my life, but some things are just plain stupid.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2010, 11:08:22 AM »


Grand Hyatt is a (very) old hotel and does have stair access as far as I know.

 have U ever been inside? I have its very Modern the furnishings in the room are all new and moderrn, the Lounge up on top is a 2 story Lounge with great views over to Kowloon and the Harbour.The star ferry has a dock a few mins walk closer to the Renassiance which a person can walk to via a shared pool area garden setting

 this GH is very grand, only IMO on the wrong side of the harbour but is full of business people all the time and HKI is what they need and want. The Peninsula in Kowloon is Very old would U recommend people to stay away from there? I would unless they have very deep pockets but with very deep pockets Id tell them go for it!

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2010, 11:12:04 AM »
Dan,

 As a veteran of both Hong Kong and Australia, I'd offer the following advice:

1. CX First is amazing but when booking with AA Miles, you need to book two separate tickets, as N. America to South Pacific is only allowed via the Pacific. If you are springing for the extra miles and doing CX, try and get Qantas F from HKG-SYD as CX does not operate F to Australia. My advice would be to fly one way via the Pacific Islands (Bora Bora?) and New Zealand on Air New Zealand in Business/First (which is in my opinion much better than CX business comfort wise) and return via Hong Kong on QF & CX.

2. Walking from the Grand Hyatt to either Chabad or Ohel Leah is not really doable. Think San Francisco type hills. I love Shabbos in Kowloon and besides Kowloon is a much more authentic Hong Kong experience. Hong Kong Island is like Manhattan or Frankfurt. My advice for you would be to use the IC F&F rate at either Intercontinental in Kowloon or stay in the Sheraton on C+P

3. If you have the time, I'd advise you to maximize your trip by stopping in Singapore for a day (or two if possible). You can do that by flying QF from SYD-SIN in F and then flying on to HKG on CX (they have at least one flight a day with F). This is doable because you need to do HKG-N. America on a separate redemption.

4. Keep in mind that when trying to get 2 F Seats from N. America to HKG the easiest way is always to do CX from YYZ which has very good availability. When flying with a companion, CX Business can be quite annoying because of the Herringbone configuration. Seats are also a bit too narrow for my liking.
Seems like a OW award is the way to go, no?

Wow, so it seems both Hyatts are out.

Anyone know anything about the W in Kowloon?
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2010, 11:16:26 AM »
Seems like a OW award is the way to go, no?

Wow, so it seems both Hyatts are out.

Anyone know anything about the W in Kowloon?

 the W is up by the airport express station a nice long walk

 best Hotels are Sheraton,Peninsula,Intecontinnental,ShangRiLa, Holiday Golden mile for being close to KZ or chabad Id recommend any of these for Shabbos, during the week anywhere is fine

 I know people who have stayed at each of these Hotels over shabbbos and no one ever told me they ran into any problems. I personally stayed at the now Closed Renaissance

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2010, 12:28:50 PM »

Anyone know anything about the W in Kowloon?

Yes, I stayed there last summer. Typical Hip W with the most amazing rooftop outdoor pool I've ever seen. It's on something like the 82nd floor! They treat PLATs very well

Location is not doable for Shabbos though its only a few minute taxi ride from all of the action

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2010, 12:29:59 PM »
Seems like a OW award is the way to go, no?

If you've got a lot of AA points, and you really want to fly CX then yes. But if you are open to other airlines then i'd probably go with an Aeroplan mini RTW

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2010, 03:46:23 PM »
Yes, I stayed there last summer. Typical Hip W with the most amazing rooftop outdoor pool I've ever seen. It's on something like the 82nd floor! They treat PLATs very well

Location is not doable for Shabbos though its only a few minute taxi ride from all of the action
Looks like it's jut 1.3 miles from Chabad of Kowloon and 1.4 from KZ, is it really not walkable?
If you've got a lot of AA points, and you really want to fly CX then yes. But if you are open to other airlines then i'd probably go with an Aeroplan mini RTW
What routing/class would you suggest from CLE to HKG and SYD (and 1 more city?)
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2010, 04:05:28 PM »
Best Routing would be:

CLE-LAX on CO
LAX-AKL on NZ (Stop in the Pacific Islands?)
AKL-SYD on NZ
SYD-HKG on TG or SQ
HKG-CLE via NRT/ICN & NYC/ORD/IAD/LAX/SFP on ANA Or Asiana

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2010, 04:07:26 PM »
Looks like it's jut 1.3 miles from Chabad of Kowloon and 1.4 from KZ, is it really not walkable?

All of the rooms are on very high floors

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2010, 04:14:49 PM »
All of the rooms are on very high floors

keeps you fit.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2010, 04:34:05 PM »
All of the rooms are on very high floors

 thats the same problem with The Conrad and JWMarriott on HKI and more and more alot of Hotels are occupying mixed use buildings and taking the Top or Middle floors, which means becareful if palnning to be there over Shabbos or YT

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2010, 04:49:19 PM »
I was in the Island over shabbos, at the bischoplei.

They were so kind to lower us to the 9th floor.

They were aware of the jewish 'problem' using cards to get into the rooms. So they always sent a guy along. The funny part is that those guys never used the elevator on shabbos, and walked up the stairs (even if i didn't walk with him).

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2010, 04:56:31 PM »
I was in the Island over shabbos, at the bischoplei.

They were so kind to lower us to the 9th floor.

They were aware of the jewish 'problem' using cards to get into the rooms. So they always sent a guy along. The funny part is that those guys never used the elevator on shabbos, and walked up the stairs (even if i didn't walk with him).
You use the elevator on Shabbos with a goy?
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2010, 04:57:05 PM »
You use the elevator on Shabbos with a goy?

I don't, nor do I use a saturday-gentile.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2010, 05:16:36 PM »
You use the elevator on Shabbos with a goy?

 why not as long as  the Goy isnt with You or doing anything for You. So walk into a building and a goy presses for the El and you go in with them and leave at whatever floor they do.

that said I cant ever remember relying on this and riding an El with a Goy

 Now a Lift is a different problem

  sort of like walking thru an Electric door when a goy does in order to get in or out of the building,a revolving door is a big problem

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2010, 05:37:19 PM »
why not as long as  the Goy isnt with You or doing anything for You. So walk into a building and a goy presses for the El and you go in with them and leave at whatever floor they do.

that said I cant ever remember relying on this and riding an El with a Goy

 Now a Lift is a different problem

  sort of like walking thru an Electric door when a goy does in order to get in or out of the building,a revolving door is a big problem
An elevator is an entirely different halachic shailoh than an electronic door.
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2010, 05:44:25 PM »
An elevator is an entirely different halachic shailoh than an electronic door.

 I understood that but I know numerous Rabbis that allow riding an El as long as you dont ask the goy to do anything on your behalf or hint at them to do something eg Oh you are going to the 10th floor a pity you arent staying on the 25th like me so I guess I will simply walk up the other 15 flights, hoping the goy will simply press the 25th button for you. But alot will say going in and saying nothing or hinting nothing and getting out on whatever floor they do is OK