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Hong Kong Island:
Things to do:
-Victoria Peak (tram),
-Ngong Ping 360 Glass bottom cable car (big Buddha),
-Downtown area
-Pink dolphin watching
-Ozone  Bar
-Tailors (Jantzen, tai panin admiraltyi cntr)
-Big Bus Tour
-Star ferry to Kowloon

Kosher Grocery Stores:
KosherMart On Hong Kong Island in the JCC
Kosher Original in Kowloon

Where to eat:
JCC Sunday night buffet can't be missed.
JCC Pizza - (Not open in the Summer)
Seven Zero - Dairy Resturant in the JCC
JCC Chinese
Shalom grill restaurant reported permanently closed by Mech
Shalom grill kosher market

Places to stay:
Grand Hyatt hotel
Mandarin Oriental Hotel
Four Seasons

Kowloon:
Things to do:
-8:00pm Laser show
-Ladies market
-Ave. of stars- pier
-Museums (science, space)
-Diamond hill- nan lian garden/chi Lin nunnery
-Big Bus Tour
-Star ferry to Hong Kong Island
-Drinks at Felix (Peninsula Hotel)
-Drinks in the Lobby (Intercontinental Hotel)


Only place to eat:
Mul Hayam Restaurant at Kehilat Zion (Breakfast is now $100 HKD)

Places to stay:
The W Hotel - Great Hotel but far from Synagogues
Grand Stamford Intercontinental Hotel - next to Chabad (for Shabbos),
Intercontinental Hong Kong, Sheraton, Shangri la , Peninsula, Hyatt regency. (All these hotels are in great locations if you would like to be near KZ. You can also walk through the TST subway station to KZ from all these except IC Grand Stamford and Shangri La which is next door) 

Shuls
Kehilat Zion -Location: Unit 105, 1/F Wing On Plaza 62 Mody Road East Tsim Sha Tsui Kowloon kzionhk@yahoo.com, or call: (852) 2366 6364 (office) or (852) 2368 0061
Chabad - Location:  67-71 Chatham Road, Oriental Centre 1/F Unit D, Tsim Sha Tsui  Telephone:  (852) 2366 5770  Mobile Tel.: (852) 9674 4450  Email: kowloon@chabadhk.org

Macau: (Ferry from hkg)
-Casinos (las Vegas style hotels),
-Curque like water show
-aj hachet tower (bungi)

-Disney

Lhasa:
Lake, pilgrims , culture

Airline Checkin Counters: Kowloon Station (below the W Hotel) to check your bags in. You then take the MRT straight to the airport (with just a couple of stops). It's super convenient and quick. You don't have to stay at the W to check in at Kowloon station though (and FWIW you can check in at Hong Kong station on HKI, too).


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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2010, 08:31:30 AM »
have U ever been inside? I have its very Modern the furnishings in the room are all new and moderrn, the Lounge up on top is a 2 story Lounge with great views over to Kowloon and the Harbour.The star ferry has a dock a few mins walk closer to the Renassiance which a person can walk to via a shared pool area garden setting

 this GH is very grand, only IMO on the wrong side of the harbour but is full of business people all the time and HKI is what they need and want. The Peninsula in Kowloon is Very old would U recommend people to stay away from there? I would unless they have very deep pockets but with very deep pockets Id tell them go for it!

I have been looking through my post over and over. Where do you find I told someone to 'stay away' from the Grand Hyatt?
I said that since it is a very old (25+) hotel it has stair access.
And for your question - I have been to the GH a few times.

By the way - it is not good to show your ignorance in public.
Just for you to know riding an elevator on Shabbos IS an issue. Regardless if you tell a goy or not.
When you enter an elevator - your weight affects the amount of energy used in order to move the elevator. This is, according to many opinions, 'gromo' which prohibited on Shabbos. The fact you don't acknowledge that - does not mean it doesn't exist.
You could look into asking Rabbi Halperin from the Halachic Technology Institute.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2010, 08:41:47 AM »
I ate by both and KZ had a reg davening and meal while Chabad in Kowloon at least that fri night was more like a Purim Seuda and Isreali folk song festival and we had 10 men but not 10 davening, while KZ pretty much everyone was Shomer shabbos with a few exceptions

 Why dont I see Dan davening or eating anywhere when theres a Chabad to be had, especially in Kowloon where Chabad and KZ to put it best  dont get along

 BTW the food at chabad on Fri night wasnt bad and there was plenty of it, just the atmoshere wasnt my cup of tea for the davening or during the meal.While KZ is sefard but I was very comfortable davening with a reg minyan

Have you not yet learned your lesson from last time we had the same discussion here?
Again you are bashing Chabad.
Do yourself a favor "steve" (A fine Jewish name) - next time you get to HK - stick to the Shomer Shabbos "reg minyan". Chabad could handle without "Tzadikim" of this kind.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2010, 10:08:39 AM »
As much as some people will check-in at a hotel with lots of floors, which has a shabbos elevator, and will use it, without bothering to ask at check-in for a lower room. (I'm talking about healthy people), which IS a problem.

Its a big bedi'eved, as pointed out before due to the 'ribuy shiurim' of burning additional fuel (or using more electricity).
The same goes to shuttle buses/trams/trains/etc that carry people for free.

To Steve II: I'm not lubavitch or affiliated to it, and you know it.

However, although they don't keep your shita, I'm sure that you will agree, that the shluchim in places like HKG, don't go there because they have gypsy blood or so, as they have often little kids, and would much rather live in Israel or USA, in a regular kehilla.
Although you maybe don't agree to their shitos, I'm sure you agree that the shlichim mean it leshem shamayim, and if it were solely with business in mind, I'm sure people with a willpower such as some shluchim have (that live in the far away places), could find more lucrative businesses.

So let's stay nice.
 

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2010, 11:04:33 AM »
I have been looking through my post over and over. Where do you find I told someone to 'stay away' from the Grand Hyatt?
I said that since it is a very old (25+) hotel it has stair access.
And for your question - I have been to the GH a few times.

By the way - it is not good to show your ignorance in public.
Just for you to know riding an elevator on Shabbos IS an issue. Regardless if you tell a goy or not.
When you enter an elevator - your weight affects the amount of energy used in order to move the elevator. This is, according to many opinions, 'gromo' which prohibited on Shabbos. The fact you don't acknowledge that - does not mean it doesn't exist.
You could look into asking Rabbi Halperin from the Halachic Technology Institute.

 1- when you said it was a (very) old Hotel , I took it that you were saying there were more modern places and not only pertaining to if there were stairs or not. Since Dan LUVS modern Hotels I thought you were saying stya elsewhere. seems from this explanation of yurs I was Wrong in how I read your sentence

 2- as for Elevators I happen to have asked and was told what I posted, even you on pg 1 of this thread posted "(and not trust the heter to go with the goy in the elevator)" so even you posted that there is a heter for doing this yet on this post I quote seem to be saying something else

 and Im very aware of that some els work by accessing the weight and then using more electricity if it needs to due to the weight issue

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2010, 11:25:37 AM »
Have you not yet learned your lesson from last time we had the same discussion here?
Again you are bashing Chabad.
Do yourself a favor "steve" (A fine Jewish name) - next time you get to HK - stick to the Shomer Shabbos "reg minyan". Chabad could handle without "Tzadikim" of this kind.

 I see from Dans map that C Kowloon no longer is on Mody in a narrow walk up building on the 3rd floor. I was there back in Feb '08 were U there then, if U want I will try and get the exact Fri night but I will repeat there was a minyan but not 10 shomer shabbos men, bottles of vodka were being empited as if there was no tommorrow. The majority of songs that were sang were Israeli folk songs . I couldnt help but have feel that I was at a Purim Seuda, not what I would call a Shabbos meal that I look forward to being at, while Im sure others would love that type of meal

When asked if we were coming back on Shabbos morn for the minyan and meal , I indicated I was going to KZ and the Rabbi  tried to convince me not to and that they were questionable. Not saying this was You as I have no idea if you were even there then

No when I looked at Dans link to Chabad HK it lists restaurants on HKI but none in Kowloon, thusly I may be wrong but I take it that C of K doesnt have food during the week , so why doesnt it list KZ, which does?  shall I guess, Id say things between the 2 places havent changed since I was in HK last in 2/08

 Have I not learnt my lesson? what R U talking about . I guess you havent read this thread Dan asked to leave local politics out and it seems you dont wish to. till now I havent Bashed C of K, but I was told when at KZ in 2/08 that Reb Ovadia Yosef put C of K into Hearim after not closing up after he said they should

 But I do feel that theres nothing wrong letting others know what they just might run into befopre doing so.My friend said he preferred Chabad to davening Sefradi at KZ so he went back  and stayed for lunch, I stopped by on the way back to my Hotel and didnt feel Welcomed but more like I was a traitor by what the Rabbi had said to me, that was and is his Problem. I needed to discuss arrangements with my friend for the rest of the day and we werent in the same room at the Hotel nor floor. the rabbi didnt like that I went to KZ nor that I stopped by to speak to my friend

 I have nothing against C of HKI a nice former Detroit person at that, nor have I been there .

 so now you want to lower yourself to slander a person who has a given name other then a Hebrew 1, keep going you are showing your True self are you sure you are  Ahvas Yisroel doesnt seem so to me

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2010, 11:45:37 AM »
As much as some people will check-in at a hotel with lots of floors, which has a shabbos elevator, and will use it, without bothering to ask at check-in for a lower room. (I'm talking about healthy people), which IS a problem.

Its a big bedi'eved, as pointed out before due to the 'ribuy shiurim' of burning additional fuel (or using more electricity).
The same goes to shuttle buses/trams/trains/etc that carry people for free.

To Steve II: I'm not lubavitch or affiliated to it, and you know it.

However, although they don't keep your shita, I'm sure that you will agree, that the shluchim in places like HKG, don't go there because they have gypsy blood or so, as they have often little kids, and would much rather live in Israel or USA, in a regular kehilla.
Although you maybe don't agree to their shitos, I'm sure you agree that the shlichim mean it leshem shamayim, and if it were solely with business in mind, I'm sure people with a willpower such as some shluchim have (that live in the far away places), could find more lucrative businesses.

So let's stay nice.
 

 Im nice , and as I once posted have relatives that were and are Shlichim and 1 even published a few books. And yes I have had the exact same talk with them and maybe since they were US based and didnt have the Shabbos meals or restaurant setup they didnt run into what I found in Asia. They said they understood the wanting to Reach out to the backpacker types and at the same time w/o a reg local Jewish community they would need to rely on other means to raise $$$ and set afloat.
 
 The C of HKI was and is warmly greeted into the community if anything I was told the community raised the $$ needed to buy the Rabbi his home and thusly beable to remain in HKI. But in alot of other places its anything but Peace between Chabad and the locals. Which doesnt affect C of K since there arent many Jews living in Kowloon at all, less then a handful at least that was the case in 2/08
 

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2010, 11:48:49 AM »
 Now if anyone would read this thread from pg 1(Shlomi) they would read where the whole discussion was where I was telling Dan to stay in Kowloon for Shabbos over HKI.Nothing about where he should daven was being discussed but rather which part of HK to stay in was the Subject

 the next to last post on pg 1 was by chuchem, who suggested to Dan to eat by KZ on pg 2 I quoted chuchem and even said that the food at C of K was also very good but also posted what I didnt care about it. I guess Im only allowed to say what I liked and not what I didnt
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2010, 06:51:02 PM »
I dont want to get involved in this politics. All I can say is, I enjoyed the KZ meals very much and the davening and atmosphere was very nice. I dont think any place can beat their food, but thats a side issue. I looked at both options and spoke to guys that have been in Kowloon in Ch. and KZ and everyone said go to KZ. I am sure chabad does amazing kiruv work there and means it well, but maybe we can agree, that Ch. fokus in Kowloon is the non frum tourists and business people and KZ is focused on the more relig. ones. Nothing wrong with that, chabad deserves respect for that. But they should then understand, why frum people rather avoid them.


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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2010, 07:09:01 PM »
I dont want to get involved in this politics. All I can say is, I enjoyed the KZ meals very much and the davening and atmosphere was very nice. I dont think any place can beat their food, but thats a side issue. I looked at both options and spoke to guys that have been in Kowloon in Ch. and KZ and everyone said go to KZ. I am sure chabad does amazing kiruv work there and means it well, but maybe we can agree, that Ch. fokus in Kowloon is the non frum tourists and business people and KZ is focused on the more relig. ones. Nothing wrong with that, chabad deserves respect for that. But they should then understand, why frum people rather avoid them.



 as I posted already I ate at both back in Feb '08, Chabad at night when they were on Mody st (no longer there it seems from Dans map) and KZ for Lunch on Shabbos

 the food was good by BOTH as I previously posted

 Atmosphere was anything but the same as I also have posted already and Agree 100% with your comments

Also KZ offers a free breakfast for those who daven there during the week in the morning.Since the restaurant is Fleshig breakfast is parve but you wont leave hungry, no menu they simply keep dropping plates of food on the table when they see the supply is getting low

 KZ is open for lunch and dinner as a reg restaurant. Cant comment on it as we never made it back to Kowloon in time before they closed

 chuchem did U ever daven at the reg Shul in Venice, I did Fri night and for Shabbos morning went straight to Chabad! Besides that Chabad had a/c and the shul didnt , I couldnt figure out Nusach Italian to save my life. My friend that I traveled with that only hits Chabad went to the reg shul maybe cause by the time we got there they were well into it while Chabad hadnt started yet

 I also would expect that chabad on HKI in the Mid Levels would be more like Venice with reg Religious people making up the minyan or at least those who live in HK up there , so a very different crowd Im sure then C of K attracts or gets

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2010, 09:33:24 PM »
I guess Im only allowed to say what I liked and not what I didnt

I'm not saying "only allowed" but it is definitely better if you focus on telling people what is GOOD in KZ, if you want to recommend them going there, and NOT what is bad in Chabad (in your eyes) or anywhere else.
Simple as that.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2010, 10:02:32 PM »
I'm not saying "only allowed" but it is definitely better if you focus on telling people what is GOOD in KZ, if you want to recommend them going there, and NOT what is bad in Chabad (in your eyes) or anywhere else.
Simple as that.

 then you Never understood me.I wasnt telling people NOT to go to You and Only to KZ. I was simply letting people know what I ran into at both and what each was offering and then they can decide where they want to go by themselves.

as chumchem implied why would you want a person who is Religious coming to You and walking out and being ticked off when they found out there wasnt a minyan of 10 Religious Jews or the atmosphere of the meals on Shabbos

and if there was a 3rd place that davened Ashkenaz thats where you would find me.

 Now back to my outstanding question, why doesnt your site list KZ when it comes to Restaurants? they list The Grill on HKI which has Shabbos meals and is a Kollel I believe just as KZ is. As well as were You the Rabbi in charge back in 2/08 when C of K was on Mody St? (till this thread I had no idea that you were in charge today of C of K, I realized that was the case when you posted how you tried to make arrangements with the Hyatt)

BTW do U yourself live all week in Kowloon?

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2010, 04:09:43 PM »
steve im surprised a rov allowed you to use the elevator. the issue of weight balance is a problem with some shabbos elevators. but in this case its far worse. a goy is not allowed to do melocho for you whether or not you ask or hint to him, and if he does its ossur to have hanaah from the melocho. thus if a goy turns ON a light for you, whether you asked him or not, you cant derive pleasure from it. however youre allowed to hint to a goy to turn OFF a light.

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2010, 04:51:33 PM »
steve im surprised a rov allowed you to use the elevator. the issue of weight balance is a problem with some shabbos elevators. but in this case its far worse. a goy is not allowed to do melocho for you whether or not you ask or hint to him, and if he does its ossur to have hanaah from the melocho. thus if a goy turns ON a light for you, whether you asked him or not, you cant derive pleasure from it. however youre allowed to hint to a goy to turn OFF a light.

 yep not my reg 1 either.

hes a relative and was a Rav in a number of Countrys mainly Kiruv work although he had a Shul. I too was surprised when he mentioned that when staying by his daughter who had an apt on a very high floor he did exactly what I posted. He also gave up his position at a Shul when he refused to use certain things they wanted him to on Shabbos

 But as I said I dont remember ever using an El that wasnt checked out (certain Israeli Hotels) before hand that were known to be AOK.

 Theres a difference of opinion if the goy is doing it for you or for themselves , and as long as its for themselves then it was OK.

 The light business sorry but I believe you are  wrong. The pt is to ask a goy in and to feed them something and tell them to sit by the dining room table, its dark so he turns on the light (although most people simply ask them) so then U are saying you cant use that light? I never heard of that and have heard the complete opposite. The main problem is how you get the goy to do it

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2010, 05:00:14 PM »
to be clear. if he turns it on for you, you cannot derive pleasure. if he turns it on for himself, its a different story and you can use it even after he leaves. in your scenario, he turned it on for himself

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2010, 05:09:09 PM »
to be clear. if he turns it on for you, you cannot derive pleasure. if he turns it on for himself, its a different story and you can use it even after he leaves. in your scenario, he turned it on for himself

 now You Got it , now the same can be applied to an El as long as the goy is using the El for himself you can tag along (for now leave out the weight issue) but you must get off when he does and then walk up or down the stairs to your floor unless by some weird chance you struck Gold and they were heading to your floor as well. A person shouldnt  say to them Oh too bad youre only going to the 10th floor and not the 25th now I will have to walk the 15 flights by the stairs to get up there, nor if he asks what floor do U want after he presses the 1 he wants can you tell him, instead you have to say Thanks but I also need the 10th

 now back to HK

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2010, 06:35:57 PM »
....or back to the weight issue

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2010, 10:36:00 AM »
Dan, read my tripreport. I was in hong kong and think 2 days is enough to see all. It depends how much shopping you want to do. I stayesd from friday till sunday night, that was fine.
I can only strongly suggest you spend shabbes in kehilat zion on the kowloon side. The food was amazing, beats every 5 star hotel. The atmosphere was very nice and its within short walking distance to a sheraton. There is also a shangrila right next to it. I stayed in the intercontinental grand standford.
The f and f rate was about the same as cash and pointd with starwood


hi i noticed that you have stayed in the intercontinentle hong kong,
i saw that there are 2 of them near kowloon, which one is closer to the shul,
what should i expect in the intercontinentel standford  if i plan to be there over shabbos, do they have phisical key rooms? are there low floors?
electronic doors?electronic lights?
are there any issues like this in the starwood property or the shangri la, how far walking are they from the shull
you could be of real help if you reply in detail.
which restaurent closes the latest and what time ie. weekdays?
if i arrive at 10pm on thursday night and leave sunday morning is that enough time to get in the main attractions?
i plan on going to beijing afterwords have you been there?
i have from thursday evening to wed afternoon to hit up hong kong and beijing, how would you plan it out, on which day and at what time would you fly out of hong kong to beijing
thank you very much hope to hear back very soon

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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2010, 10:47:40 AM »
hi i noticed that you have stayed in the intercontinentle hong kong,
i saw that there are 2 of them near kowloon, which one is closer to the shul,
GRAND STANFORD IS CLOSER
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what should i expect in the intercontinentel standford  if i plan to be there over shabbos
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do they have phisical key rooms?
NO THEY DONT
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are there low floors?
YES THERE ARE
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electronic doors?electronic lights?
NO ELECTRONIC LIGHTS
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are there any issues like this in the starwood property or the shangri la, how far walking are they from the shull
you could be of real help if you reply in detail.
ALL QUITE CLOSE
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which restaurent closes the latest and what time ie. weekdays?
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if i arrive at 10pm on thursday night and leave sunday morning is that enough time to get in the main attractions?
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i plan on going to beijing afterwords have you been there?
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i have from thursday evening to wed afternoon to hit up hong kong and beijing, how would you plan it out, on which day and at what time would you fly out of hong kong to beijing
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2010, 12:10:40 PM »
hi i noticed that you have stayed in the intercontinentle hong kong,
i saw that there are 2 of them near kowloon, which one is closer to the shul,
what should i expect in the intercontinentel standford  if i plan to be there over shabbos, do they have phisical key rooms? are there low floors?
electronic doors?electronic lights?
are there any issues like this in the starwood property or the shangri la, how far walking are they from the shull
you could be of real help if you reply in detail.
which restaurent closes the latest and what time ie. weekdays?
if i arrive at 10pm on thursday night and leave sunday morning is that enough time to get in the main attractions?
i plan on going to beijing afterwords have you been there?
i have from thursday evening to wed afternoon to hit up hong kong and beijing, how would you plan it out, on which day and at what time would you fly out of hong kong to beijing
thank you very much hope to hear back very soon

 the closest Hotel to KZ is The Shangri-la which is the building to the Left of the building that KZ is in (BTW KZ is located in a building with an attirum mini mall and is on the 3rd level there are escalators ask your Rav about using them and stairs ).

 to the left of SL is the INC Stanford the other INC is located apx 15 walk along the Harbour walk area since I never walked into either I cant comment about them

The Sheraton is also apx a 10-15 min walk from KZ

 all the restaurants have extremely Limited hours and only a few at that and are located by the shuls (apart of them)

 as for Beijing heres a good site to see it all with them in 2 days ,I did itand it was very good (i did the 1st 2 small group tours) http://sinohotelguide.com/travel/index.php

 I was there before the Olympic Village was there but why visit a sports stadium when you can do that anywhere


 Lastly for Shabbos I always LOCK my valuables away in a safe or my bag and simply put a piece of cardboard (that I cut small) into the door so that the tongue of the lock cant extend into the hole for it, so when I get back all I need to do is push the door and it opens up. Make sure you leave the Do Not Disturb sign on the outside of your door, and it doesnt hurt to ask for a low floor least housekeeping tried your door saw it was open and ended up locking it so now you need to go downstairs in order for them to send someone up to open it.
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Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2010, 04:06:44 PM »
Lastly for Shabbos I always LOCK my valuables away in a safe or my bag and simply put a piece of cardboard (that I cut small) into the door so that the tongue of the lock cant extend into the hole for it, so when I get back all I need to do is push the door and it opens up. Make sure you leave the Do Not Disturb sign on the outside of your door, and it doesnt hurt to ask for a low floor least housekeeping tried your door saw it was open and ended up locking it so now you need to go downstairs in order for them to send someone up to open it.

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