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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1540 on: February 03, 2014, 08:32:37 PM »
How long have they had the secured card? IMO if it's more than 6 months they should have no issue getting approved for a regular card from Amex, Chase, etc.
5-6 months.
True but I would thread carefully with those banks.
Rather build up better momentum for multiple BM's in another 6 months that getting just one from the "big banks" now...
Hence I'm still looking for an answer to the original question.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1541 on: February 03, 2014, 08:41:48 PM »
5-6 months.
True but I would thread carefully with those banks.
Rather build up better momentum for multiple BM's in another 6 months that getting just one from the "big banks" now...
Hence I'm still looking for an answer to the original question.
I do think having a history with the bank (checking account etc.) will definitely make an approval more likely, although I  think they'll very likely get approved for either card in this case. I don't understand why they dont sign up for a card like the freedom which will help create a history with a bank like Chase making a 3bm success more likely a few months down the line.

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« Reply #1542 on: February 03, 2014, 08:53:59 PM »
I do think having a history with the bank (checking account etc.) will definitely make an approval more likely, although I  think they'll very likely get approved for either card in this case. I don't understand why they dont sign up for a card like the freedom which will help create a history with a bank like Chase making a 3bm success more likely a few months down the line.
That is actually the only CC from a major bank that I'm considering.
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« Reply #1543 on: February 03, 2014, 08:57:22 PM »
That is actually the only CC from a major bank that I'm considering.
Smartest one to apply for now IMHO.

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« Reply #1544 on: February 03, 2014, 09:15:58 PM »
hoenstly i dont think its set in stone

i applied to chase 3bm after 6 months with my 1st card and denied on all 3 originally and then eventually after 5-7 HUCA got 1 card pushed thru thats it (freedom)....5 months after i applied for 2bm 1 approved instantly (SP) other pending and in 1 call was approved (rep didnt even ask why i needed it- she just verified some info-BA)

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« Reply #1545 on: February 03, 2014, 10:54:46 PM »
hoenstly i dont think its set in stone

i applied to chase 3bm after 6 months with my 1st card and denied on all 3 originally and then eventually after 5-7 HUCA got 1 card pushed thru thats it (freedom)....5 months after i applied for 2bm 1 approved instantly (SP) other pending and in 1 call was approved (rep didnt even ask why i needed it- she just verified some info-BA)
What was your first card and was it secured or non-secured?
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« Reply #1546 on: February 03, 2014, 11:00:34 PM »
What was your first card and was it secured or non-secured?

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was an AU for few years under my parents (back before ik about this game) and they always carry balances

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« Reply #1547 on: February 03, 2014, 11:20:37 PM »
CITI dividends

was an AU for few years under my parents (back before ik about this game) and they always carry balances
1) It wasn't your own card and banks can see this.
2) Carrying balances. Another reason for denial.

Based on those two factors it's not too difficult to see why you had that experience with your 3BM.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1548 on: February 04, 2014, 09:10:18 AM »
looked at my credit report on experian this morning, and i noticed that AMEX has been making queries (that dont count against me- soft pull?) 3 in the past 3 months...anyone else see something like that?

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« Reply #1549 on: February 04, 2014, 10:34:38 AM »
looked at my credit report on experian this morning, and i noticed that AMEX has been making queries (that dont count against me- soft pull?) 3 in the past 3 months...anyone else see something like that?
AFAIK it's always been like this, so watch your back or you may get FR'ed

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1550 on: February 04, 2014, 04:07:05 PM »
Is this normal or r they suspicious?

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« Reply #1551 on: February 04, 2014, 04:13:08 PM »
Is this normal or r they suspicious?
I would usually pass it as credit card offers I get in the mail but I may be naive.

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« Reply #1552 on: February 04, 2014, 05:08:25 PM »
I would usually pass it as credit card offers I get in the mail but I may be naive.

Well I haven't gotten any :/


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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1553 on: February 05, 2014, 01:03:42 AM »
I got declined by Capital One for a secured card because of lack of credit score. Can someone explain to me how this makes any sense?
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« Reply #1554 on: February 05, 2014, 06:32:17 AM »

I got declined by Capital One for a secured card because of lack of credit score. Can someone explain to me how this makes any sense?
Is this your first card? Do you know if you have a credit history? Loans of any sort? Bank accounts?

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« Reply #1555 on: February 05, 2014, 11:46:41 AM »
It's my first card. The reason they gave was 'credit report is unavailable or inexistent'. I thought you don't need a credit score for a secured card?
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« Reply #1556 on: February 05, 2014, 03:56:39 PM »
Which banks offer the option to get a credit card with a co-signer?
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« Reply #1557 on: February 05, 2014, 05:07:45 PM »
It's my first card. The reason they gave was 'credit report is unavailable or inexistent'. I thought you don't need a credit score for a secured card?
I would try a student card first.
Which banks offer the option to get a credit card with a co-signer?
You can get added as an authorized user and try to apply after. Dan has a thread if you go to the main forums about what to do in your situation.

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« Reply #1558 on: February 05, 2014, 05:14:14 PM »
It's my first card. The reason they gave was 'credit report is unavailable or inexistent'. I thought you don't need a credit score for a secured card?
I had the same thing by BOFA a few years ago. I had to send in all my info to the credit bureaus to create a file. I believe the bank helped me out.
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« Reply #1559 on: February 05, 2014, 05:53:00 PM »
Had same thing with cap1. Applied, declined because of no credit report found, waited 4 month and got preapproved app in the mail, applied and got accepted on the spot. It seems like they created the credit report in all 3 cb. Some of my friends had the same with cap1.