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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #240 on: July 13, 2011, 10:59:35 AM »
Why lo kedai more signup bonuses
if you get it with his appropriate birthday its a different story. Dont know if its kedai or if there are reprecussions . I was referring to a different scenerio.

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #241 on: July 13, 2011, 11:28:47 AM »
Welcome to the forums!

The way piggybacking works (if I'm understanding it correctly), is that when the AU (authorized user) is added, the card is added to their CR (credit report) as if it was there since it was opened. If that's true then there's no rush to add anyone.
thank you for the welcome.
if we can confirm piggy backing that would answer the question.
I must say however that I piggy backed on my spouses card which was opened 2 years prior to my first credit card, and I dont beleive the credit buros gave me credit fir the extra 2 years. I'll double check next time I pull it.
thanks again.

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #242 on: July 13, 2011, 12:15:36 PM »
yesh shematzlichim aval ze lo kedai

Did they experience any adverse affects? Care to please elaborate?
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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #243 on: July 13, 2011, 12:38:10 PM »
Did they experience any adverse affects? Care to please elaborate?
I dont know I assumed if one lies and uses someone elses ss# and alters birthdays its never a good idea even if it's your child. The people i know are my age and their kids arent old enough to need their own credit etc.

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #244 on: July 13, 2011, 12:46:39 PM »
I dont know I assumed if one lies and uses someone elses ss# and alters birthdays its never a good idea even if it's your child. The people i know are my age and their kids arent old enough to need their own credit etc.

Meh, don't assume.

Even if your baby gets blacklisted at Chase (for example), 15 years later I'm confident Chase will forget about it, especially if it isn't their fault. Worst case, your children's DoB will be 18 years older at the credit bureaus than on their birth certificate...
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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #245 on: July 13, 2011, 12:53:50 PM »
I can testify that when I was 12-15 years old I signed up for credit cards using a birth date which would put me in my 40s. I got approved and from then on my credit report thought I was over 40. When I reached 18, I faxed the credit bureaus my IDs and they updated the birth date.

However, I would ask a Rav before lying as it's probably assur.

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #246 on: July 13, 2011, 01:12:38 PM »
I can testify that when I was 12-15 years old I signed up for credit cards using a birth date which would put me in my 40s. I got approved and from then on my credit report thought I was over 40. When I reached 18, I faxed the credit bureaus my IDs and they updated the birth date.

However, I would ask a Rav before lying as it's probably assur.
so the bday u report on ur first credit app will be the one on ur CR

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #247 on: July 13, 2011, 01:22:32 PM »
Slightly off-topic but related... I have had success opening mileage bank accounts (both personal and business) for my 3 year old daughter.  Her mother and I thanked her very much after we used the miles for a trip to Hawaii (she stayed with the grandparents). 

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #248 on: July 13, 2011, 02:59:15 PM »
Welcome to the forums!

The way piggybacking works (if I'm understanding it correctly), is that when the AU (authorized user) is added, the card is added to their CR (credit report) as if it was there since it was opened. If that's true then there's no rush to add anyone.
In the past I have heard this and seen it on my credit report.  But when looking at my credit report on credit karma it seemed as if it was only counting my own credit lines when calculating age of credit.  I started to think that maybe the banks see both numbers, and do what they wish with it.

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #249 on: July 13, 2011, 03:15:11 PM »
In the past I have heard this and seen it on my credit report.  But when looking at my credit report on credit karma it seemed as if it was only counting my own credit lines when calculating age of credit.  I started to think that maybe the banks see both numbers, and do what they wish with it.

Policies regarding piggybacking (and possibly how it's reported) have definitely changed over the past few years.
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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #250 on: July 13, 2011, 04:12:22 PM »
What abt opening a cc for a one year old?



I can testify that when I was 12-15 years old I signed up for credit cards using a birth date which would put me in my 40s. I got approved and from then on my credit report thought I was over 40. When I reached 18, I faxed the credit bureaus my IDs and they updated the birth date.

However, I would ask a Rav before lying as it's probably assur.

So the only way it can work is with a fake birthday? 

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #251 on: July 13, 2011, 04:22:10 PM »
So the only way it can work is with a fake birthday? 

Banks will not give credit to a one year old.

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #252 on: July 13, 2011, 04:25:38 PM »
Banks will not give credit to a one year old.
whats the minimum age?

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #254 on: July 13, 2011, 05:22:38 PM »
Meh, don't assume.

Even if your baby gets blacklisted at Chase (for example), 15 years later I'm confident Chase will forget about it, especially if it isn't their fault. Worst case, your children's DoB will be 18 years older at the credit bureaus than on their birth certificate...
lets not forget about bank fraud over here.  people (of the jewish ethnicity in particular) like to think they're smarter than the system and untouchable by the government; until they're touched.  just take a look at all the couples screwing around on their taxes to get rebates for kids and income that they don't  have. last year a bunch of them got busted.  not worth it even for a few (hundred thousand) miles imo

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #255 on: July 13, 2011, 05:53:41 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

I'm quite confident you can add AUs under 18. BP's question is valid, what age is ok?

lets not forget about bank fraud over here.  people (of the jewish ethnicity in particular) like to think they're smarter than the system and untouchable by the government; until they're touched.  just take a look at all the couples screwing around on their taxes to get rebates for kids and income that they don't  have. last year a bunch of them got busted.  not worth it even for a few (hundred thousand) miles imo

Meh, you're overreacting IMHO.
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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #256 on: July 13, 2011, 06:04:13 PM »
Meh, you're overreacting IMHO.
hmm, blatant bank fraud that is %100 traceable right back to your doorstep (, it's not even like income where you could fudge around, you're talking about birth dates).  you're right, odds are you won't be busted.  but the thing about odds is, sometimes you lose.   

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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #257 on: July 13, 2011, 06:08:24 PM »
let's ask Dan if he's signed up his 4 day old yet :)
I'm actually planning on opening a continental onepass miles accnt for my 6 week old , hoping they'll give him the miles for our trip to tlv in a few weeks. after all , they are charging me the $350 fr the BF ticket for him !
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Re: building credit history for children
« Reply #258 on: July 13, 2011, 07:00:32 PM »
lets not forget about bank fraud over here.  people (of the jewish ethnicity in particular) like to think they're smarter than the system and untouchable by the government; until they're touched.  just take a look at all the couples screwing around on their taxes to get rebates for kids and income that they don't  have. last year a bunch of them got busted.  not worth it even for a few (hundred thousand) miles imo

I think your mixing Kasheh and Barshet, reporting a child which you don't have equals stealing from the IRS, creating a credit card fpr young children, ENABLES you to steal from THEM (Not the IRS). 
 

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« Reply #259 on: September 20, 2011, 02:18:01 PM »
what Type of CC would have a guaranteed Approval? (if im trying to build Credit) stores? gas? airline?

i did a search but couldnt seem to spot my answer