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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2860 on: March 23, 2015, 08:57:28 PM »
Success with both SPG and Freedom! Thanks everyone!

Question: What's the safest way to MS with RedCard and SPG to not get Amex suspicious? Should I put this in the RedCard thread?

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« Reply #2861 on: March 23, 2015, 08:58:55 PM »
Success with both SPG and Freedom! Thanks everyone!
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« Reply #2862 on: March 23, 2015, 08:59:52 PM »
Success with both SPG and Freedom! Thanks everyone!

Question: What's the safest way to MS with RedCard and SPG to not get Amex suspicious? Should I put this in the RedCard thread?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2863 on: March 23, 2015, 09:01:14 PM »
Slow and steady.

I think that is the answer to just about every question here

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« Reply #2864 on: March 23, 2015, 09:03:09 PM »
I think that is the answer to just about every question here

One of MarcoPolo's favorite answers :) He has a point though.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2865 on: March 23, 2015, 09:03:55 PM »
So in short, less than $1,000 per day at Target? Like any amount lower than at a time?

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« Reply #2866 on: March 23, 2015, 09:07:13 PM »
Or just no transactions over $1,000 at a time? And no back to back transactions of same amount?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2867 on: March 30, 2015, 01:09:48 AM »
Got approved for my first Amex card (starwood). I've Been using chase cards for the past 6-10 months and have a high line of credit with them... Why is it that Amex only have me 2k line of credit??

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« Reply #2868 on: March 30, 2015, 01:13:08 AM »
Got approved for my first Amex card (starwood). I've Been using chase cards for the past 6-10 months and have a high line of credit with them... Why is it that Amex only have me 2k line of credit??
I've never quite figured out how they decide the CL. On some cards they gave me a 2k CL while on others they gave me a much higher line. Did you put a low income amount ?

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« Reply #2869 on: March 30, 2015, 01:14:38 AM »
I've never quite figured out how they decide the CL. On some cards they gave me a 2k CL while on others they gave me a much higher line. Did you put a low income amount ?
Yes I did! Maybe that's why.
Didn't want to put it too high on the chance they would ask me to prove it... (which has happened to me in the past)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2870 on: March 30, 2015, 01:15:50 AM »
What is the process to get my CL higher??

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« Reply #2871 on: March 30, 2015, 01:16:02 AM »
Yes I did! Maybe that's why.
Didn't want to put it too high on the chance they would ask me to prove it... (which has happened to me in the past)
after 60 days you should be able to ask them to triple it without a problem
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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« Reply #2872 on: March 30, 2015, 01:17:19 AM »
after 60 days you should be able to ask them to triple it without a problem
Does that affect my credit? (is there a pull when I request that)??

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« Reply #2873 on: March 30, 2015, 01:20:41 AM »
Does that affect my credit? (is there a pull when I request that)??
yes it helps your credit  ;D
no pull
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2874 on: March 30, 2015, 01:23:59 AM »
Does that affect my credit?
The higher your credit line is the better it is for your credit as you're utilizing less of your total credit.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2875 on: March 30, 2015, 04:39:41 AM »
I've never quite figured out how they decide the CL. On some cards they gave me a 2k CL while on others they gave me a much higher line. Did you put a low income amount ?
I applied for a Starwood Card immediately followed by Everyday (free). They approved my Starwood card for 2k and froze the Everyday application. I called and they said that it's standard procedure to prevent fraud, and they'll automatically process the aplication after 5 days. They did, and approved me for 3k. I'm in the dark about why they trusted me with only 2k just to approve me for another 3k the next week. (By the way, it generated a second pull, but Experian gladly removed it as a duplicate.)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2876 on: March 30, 2015, 11:01:05 AM »
The higher your credit line is the better it is for your credit as you're utilizing less of your total credit.

But if you're not utilizing more than say 5% of your total credit anyway, I'm not convinced that it is better for your credit to have more available. Even if it marginally helps your score, card issuers don't like to see "too much" available credit with relatively low credit history especially when you are listing low income. You also have to consider the debt:income ratio.

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« Reply #2877 on: March 30, 2015, 11:11:29 AM »
But if you're not utilizing more than say 5% of your total credit anyway, I'm not convinced that it is better for your credit to have more available. Even if it marginally helps your score, card issuers don't like to see "too much" available credit with relatively low credit history especially when you are listing low income. You also have to consider the debt:income ratio.
Then they certainly won't like to see 50% utilization. But going from a 2k to 6k CL shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #2878 on: March 30, 2015, 11:13:03 AM »
The higher your credit line is the better it is for your credit as you're utilizing less of your total credit.

Just worse for chances of getting more CCs with given bank.
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« Reply #2879 on: March 30, 2015, 11:15:35 AM »
Just worse for chances of getting more CCs with given bank.
Shift some of that credit over ?