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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3280 on: September 17, 2015, 12:04:47 PM »
I don't know what the reports are as to whether or not that has been working lately but even churning the 30k every couple of months can be pretty profitable.

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« Reply #3281 on: September 17, 2015, 12:05:12 PM »
I don't know what the reports are as to whether or not that has been working lately but even churning the 30k every couple of months can be pretty profitable.
5/24 can put a bit of a damper on chase churning. Idk how strict they are about united card.
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« Reply #3282 on: September 17, 2015, 12:07:21 PM »
5/24 can put a bit of a damper on chase churning. Idk how strict they are about united card.
Supposedly not as strict as the UR cards.

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« Reply #3283 on: September 17, 2015, 12:28:38 PM »
5/24 can put a bit of a damper on chase churning. Idk how strict they are about united card.

i don't know what that means. does it mean 5 times in 24 months? or waiting minimum 5 months between opening/closing?
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« Reply #3284 on: September 17, 2015, 12:31:18 PM »
i don't know what that means. does it mean 5 times in 24 months? or waiting minimum 5 months between opening/closing?
Chase has been denying new cards if you opened 5 new cards in the last 24 months. Not just 5 chase cards, any bank.

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« Reply #3285 on: September 17, 2015, 12:35:28 PM »
Chase has been denying new cards if you opened 5 new cards in the last 24 months. Not just 5 chase cards, any bank.
if it's been 4 cards, will 2bm work?
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« Reply #3286 on: September 17, 2015, 12:37:46 PM »
if it's been 4 cards, will 2bm work?
Its not a hard rule, others have gotten approved for more. And it seems to be more on the UR cards.

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« Reply #3287 on: September 17, 2015, 12:40:30 PM »
Its not a hard rule, others have gotten approved for more. And it seems to be more on the UR cards.
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« Reply #3288 on: September 17, 2015, 12:54:35 PM »
Its not a hard rule, others have gotten approved for more. And it seems to be more on the UR cards.
But if you're churning the united card, and others, you'll have a hard time getting a UR card (if you need one)
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« Reply #3289 on: September 17, 2015, 12:56:33 PM »
But if you're churning the united card, and others, you'll have a hard time getting a UR card (if you need one)
If you're from the unlucky ones.

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« Reply #3290 on: September 17, 2015, 12:59:29 PM »
If you're from the unlucky ones.

i already have freedom (never closing as it's my oldest card) and sapphire. INK doesn't count, do they? business is separate from personal, right?
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« Reply #3291 on: September 17, 2015, 01:01:11 PM »
i already have freedom (never closing as it's my oldest card) and sapphire. INK doesn't count, do they? business is separate from personal, right?
I don't know if biz cards are included in the 5/24. AU's on your CR will count.

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« Reply #3292 on: September 17, 2015, 01:02:14 PM »
I don't know if biz cards are included in the 5/24. AU's on your CR will count.

so if i'm not an au on anyone's chase account i'm in the clear? or in any cc (including AMEX where i'm my own au)
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« Reply #3293 on: September 17, 2015, 01:03:33 PM »
so if i'm not an au on anyone's chase account i'm in the clear? or in any cc (including AMEX where i'm my own au)
AU's from any bank.

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« Reply #3294 on: September 17, 2015, 01:19:53 PM »
so if i'm not an au on anyone's chase account i'm in the clear? or in any cc (including AMEX where i'm my own au)
Meaning if you've been ramping up your au game in honor of the upcoming yom tov (sbs) your going to have to call all three credit bureau's and remove any au's that got added to your reports, b4 you do a chase application.

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« Reply #3295 on: September 17, 2015, 01:20:21 PM »
Could I have 2 amex cards under 2 different address or will it raise a red flag?

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« Reply #3296 on: September 17, 2015, 01:20:38 PM »
Could I have 2 amex cards under 2 different address or will it raise a red flag?
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« Reply #3297 on: September 17, 2015, 01:38:14 PM »
Meaning if you've been ramping up your au game in honor of the upcoming yom tov (sbs) your going to have to call all three credit bureau's and remove any au's that got added to your reports, b4 you do a chase application.

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« Reply #3298 on: September 17, 2015, 01:44:32 PM »
i already have freedom (never closing as it's my oldest card) and sapphire. INK doesn't count, do they? business is separate from personal, right?
I don't know about ink... but if you wanted to churn sapphire you'd have a hard time if you're also churning other cards.
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« Reply #3299 on: September 17, 2015, 01:45:57 PM »
I don't know about ink... but if you wanted to churn sapphire you'd have a hard time if you're also churning other cards.

for now i'm not churning sapphire. i tried just to switch to MC a while back so i can have a Visa as well but they're not doing that anymore
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