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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3480 on: December 02, 2015, 10:11:10 AM »
Freedom is only miles when combined with a higher card. Until then it is just CB.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3481 on: December 02, 2015, 10:11:49 AM »
Freedom is only miles when combined with a higher card. Until then it is just CB.

so if she gets a freedom and a sapphire it's ok or must be CSP?
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« Reply #3482 on: December 02, 2015, 10:12:40 AM »
so if she gets a freedom and a sapphire it's ok or must be CSP?
If she has both, she can transfer the points from the Freedom into the CSP and turn them into miles.
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« Reply #3483 on: December 02, 2015, 10:12:48 AM »
my cousin doesn't have any credit cards yet. she wants to start building her credit. i know this has been discussed a million times, but hear me out.
i obviously told her to try and start with a Chase Freedom as she already has a Chase checking account and it will likely be easier to manage everything from the same bank. i told her that this is one of the best cards because of the points and because it's a no fee card.
she went to Chase yesterday and they told her that the Freedom card is a cashback card. it doesn't earn any points for miles, hotels, etc. i told her she must have misunderstood. she said she asked the guy twice...

am i missing something here??
Yes. Chase markets the freedom as a cash back card, and the CSP as a points card. However, the rewards for both are given as UR points. You just need a CSP or an Ink Plus to be able to transfer to miles.
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« Reply #3484 on: December 02, 2015, 10:23:14 AM »
Yes. Chase markets the freedom as a cash back card, and the CSP as a points card. However, the rewards for both are given as UR points. You just need a CSP or an Ink Plus to be able to transfer to miles.

is it possible to have a Freedom and just not redeem points and then open a CSP and have all the points available?
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« Reply #3485 on: December 02, 2015, 10:24:07 AM »
is it possible to have a Freedom and just not redeem points and then open a CSP and have all the points available?
Of course. I hope that's what everyone who opens a freedom first is doing.
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« Reply #3486 on: December 02, 2015, 10:25:11 AM »
Of course. I hope that's what everyone who opens a freedom first is doing.

what about regular Sapphire? not considered a higher card than Freedom?
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« Reply #3487 on: December 02, 2015, 10:27:24 AM »
what about regular Sapphire? not considered a higher card than Freedom?
Freedom is a better card. Idk what regular sapphire is considered by chase. You can't use it to transfer to miles. Anyways, it's only available as a downgrade.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3488 on: December 02, 2015, 10:27:31 AM »
what about regular Sapphire? not considered a higher card than Freedom?
is it even available to sign up for?
freedom is more valuable

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« Reply #3489 on: December 02, 2015, 10:31:55 AM »
is it even available to sign up for?
freedom is more valuable

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3490 on: December 07, 2015, 02:41:51 PM »
Do you have to be at least 21 yrs old to include family income?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3491 on: December 07, 2015, 02:43:55 PM »
Do you have to be at least 21 yrs old to include family income?
Household income can always be included

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« Reply #3492 on: December 07, 2015, 02:46:50 PM »
Household income can always be included
I heard it says you have to be 21 to include household income on the citi fineprint! (didnt read it, have to check it out)

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« Reply #3493 on: December 07, 2015, 02:47:38 PM »
I heard it says you have to be 21 to include household income on the citi fineprint! (didnt read it, have to check it out)
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« Reply #3494 on: December 07, 2015, 02:48:01 PM »
Household income can always be included
Incorrect. Legally, if you are under 21, you can only include personal income. Of course, you can do what you want.
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« Reply #3495 on: December 07, 2015, 03:04:37 PM »
Do you have to be at least 21 yrs old to include family income?
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« Reply #3496 on: December 07, 2015, 10:21:17 PM »
This has to be on here somewhere but I'm not finding it. I have 2 accounts with American Airlines- the year is up the end of this month and each account has around 60k points. Can I merge the accounts? Can I downgrade to a free card and still keep the miles?
Thank you so much!

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« Reply #3497 on: December 07, 2015, 10:33:41 PM »
This has to be on here somewhere but I'm not finding it. I have 2 accounts with American Airlines- the year is up the end of this month and each account has around 60k points. Can I merge the accounts? Can I downgrade to a free card and still keep the miles?
Thank you so much!

If you're referring to the milage account and you have 2 AA accounts under your name, yes you can merge via this link https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/AAdvantage2015/merge-accounts.jsp

When cancelling your credit card, you don't lose your AA miles. You just have to keep your milage account active IIRC every 18 months. (Might be off on the months)

If they are CC's on Barclays you can close one or both and combine your credit limit onto another card.

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« Reply #3498 on: December 07, 2015, 10:38:47 PM »


If you're referring to the milage account and you have 2 AA accounts under your name, yes you can merge via this link https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/AAdvantage2015/merge-accounts.jsp
Make sure you're signed in to the account you want to keep when using this link, if you have a preference.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3499 on: December 07, 2015, 11:10:42 PM »
An EX freeze is effective immediately or do i need to wait a certain time frame?