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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4100 on: December 12, 2016, 02:31:24 PM »
all my chase cards are on hold bec they are in review, what does this mean? well i called them and they said call this number which happened to be lending services and rep says that its per the cardholder agreement that they have the right to review accounts and put them on hold as they wish and my account was picked at random and they do this all the time.... i HUCAed and 2nd rep said same thing...
#1 whats going on here?
#2 is this true, all the time for no specific reason at all?
#3 any reason to be nervous about this?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4101 on: December 12, 2016, 02:33:16 PM »
all my chase cards are on hold bec they are in review, what does this mean? well i called them and they said call this number which happened to be lending services and rep says that its per the cardholder agreement that they have the right to review accounts and put them on hold as they wish and my account was picked at random and they do this all the time.... i HUCAed and 2nd rep said same thing...
#1 whats going on here?
#2 is this true, all the time for no specific reason at all?
#3 any reason to be nervous about this?

Dont know about #1 or #2, but #3 is an affirmative.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4102 on: December 12, 2016, 02:34:16 PM »
all my chase cards are on hold bec they are in review, what does this mean? well i called them and they said call this number which happened to be lending services and rep says that its per the cardholder agreement that they have the right to review accounts and put them on hold as they wish and my account was picked at random and they do this all the time.... i HUCAed and 2nd rep said same thing...
#1 whats going on here?
#2 is this true, all the time for no specific reason at all?
#3 any reason to be nervous about this?

Read/post here.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4103 on: December 12, 2016, 02:42:31 PM »
Dont know about #1 or #2, but #3 is an affirmative.
why?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4104 on: December 12, 2016, 02:49:54 PM »
Read/post here.
i just checked my online logins and it doesn't say anything about closed accounts!!!
seems like my accounts are all still open just that when i try to use any of my cards they're all declined (even my business card)
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4105 on: December 12, 2016, 02:57:19 PM »
why?
Is that a real question?  LOL.

Ever paid Chase cash towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase via CFBP towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase via Serve or something towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase MO's towards your CC's?
Ever used your CC for MS?
Ever sold or transferred UR's to anyone?
Were you honest with your income on your application?
Ever flip your credit limit multiple times per month?
Ever make multiple payments towards your CC's per month

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« Reply #4106 on: December 12, 2016, 02:59:21 PM »
Is that a real question?  LOL.

Ever paid Chase cash towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase via CFBP towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase via Serve or something towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase MO's towards your CC's?
Ever used your CC for MS?
Ever sold or transferred UR's to anyone?
Were you honest with your income on your application?
Ever flip your credit limit multiple times per month?
Ever make multiple payments towards your CC's per month
the answer to all is NO besides the last 3

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4107 on: December 12, 2016, 02:59:57 PM »
the answer to all is NO besides the last 3
anyways why cant i pay my bill more then once per month?

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« Reply #4108 on: December 12, 2016, 03:06:06 PM »
anyways why cant i pay my bill more then once per month?
You can just like I can deposit MO's. They also can close our accounts.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4109 on: December 12, 2016, 03:10:29 PM »
Is that a real question?  LOL.

Ever paid Chase cash towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase via CFBP towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase via Serve or something towards your CC's?
Ever paid Chase MO's towards your CC's?
Ever used your CC for MS?
Ever sold or transferred UR's to anyone?
Were you honest with your income on your application?
Ever flip your credit limit multiple times per month?
Ever make multiple payments towards your CC's per month
so your saying its not good to call and try to get a higher credit line??? if yes then how should i higher my credit lines? or just don't?!

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4110 on: December 12, 2016, 03:13:29 PM »
the answer to all is NO besides the last 3

Lying about your income on a credit application is fraud
Cycling your credit line is indicative of bust out fraud
Making multiple payments per month is indicative of bust out fraud

You can Google anything you dont understand.

I gave you a litmus test of known past triggers to shutdowns with Chase and you failed.  Chase algorithms have flagged you and now you have the fraud or compliance department eyes on your accounts.  That generally doesn't bode well for people.

Best of luck though

I hope it does work out for you.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4111 on: December 12, 2016, 03:26:18 PM »
Lying about your income on a credit application is fraud
Cycling your credit line is indicative of bust out fraud
Making multiple payments per month is indicative of bust out fraud

You can Google anything you dont understand.

I gave you a litmus test of known past triggers to shutdowns with Chase and you failed.  Chase algorithms have flagged you and now you have the fraud or compliance department eyes on your accounts.  That generally doesn't bode well for people.

Best of luck though

I hope it does work out for you.
well,
#1 "Cycling your credit line is indicative of bust out fraud" i didn't understand what that meant but after asking google i just realized that i don't do that!
#2 "Making multiple payments per month is indicative of bust out fraud" aren't you supposed to pay off most of the balance by the time the statement prints?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #4112 on: December 12, 2016, 03:28:26 PM »
"Lying about your income on a credit application is fraud" household income is fraud ???

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« Reply #4113 on: December 12, 2016, 03:33:21 PM »
#2 "Making multiple payments per month is indicative of bust out fraud" aren't you supposed to pay off most of the balance by the time the statement prints?
We do but most don't.
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« Reply #4114 on: December 12, 2016, 04:01:44 PM »
"Lying about your income on a credit application is fraud" household income is fraud ???

LOL.

Why are you trying to be so contrarian to me? You posted asking some opinions and I gave you mine and outlined the basis of my reasoning.   If I were you,  I'd be nervous. Even more so now that I know more about the situation.

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« Reply #4115 on: December 12, 2016, 05:53:37 PM »

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« Reply #4116 on: December 13, 2016, 02:08:44 PM »
they called it a "periodic credit review" 

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« Reply #4117 on: December 13, 2016, 02:16:19 PM »
they called it a "periodic credit review"
Did they finish?
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