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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: First Credit Cards
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Re: First Credit Cards
« Reply #461 on: June 18, 2012, 03:43:45 PM »
Do the CC companies keep their own profile of how many applications you submitted, and based on that approve or decline you for credit?

If not, then for all intents and purposes, a single application or a 3bm is the same, Considering that a 2bm or 3bm done right only does ONE credit pull.

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« Reply #463 on: June 18, 2012, 04:20:03 PM »
No proof there is any difference (getting approved) between Gap and Banana Republic, Old Navy or other retail.
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« Reply #464 on: June 18, 2012, 04:22:08 PM »
No proof there is any difference (getting approved) between Gap and Banana Republic, Old Navy or other retail.
True true... Just I know multiple people who have done it through the Gap card that's all... Do you think its easier to be approved in the store since they usually approve for your purchase right then?
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Re: First Credit Cards
« Reply #465 on: June 18, 2012, 04:24:50 PM »
Don't have an answer for that, but it pays to do it in store when you purchase something, so you get a huge discount on that purchases.
(maybe online as well?? Not what I know, but maybe).
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Re: First Credit Cards
« Reply #466 on: June 18, 2012, 09:23:15 PM »
I'm trying to start my wife on the CC game. What are the best cards to start with? Should I avoid a 2/3BM? She's had an HSBC card for a few years so she has some history.
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Why do you say so? If you go with Cap1 you should rather do the Journey.
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Re: First Credit Cards
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Suggestion: Someone make a master thread that deals with the topic of first credit cards, cc's for bachurim, building credit score etc and a moderator stickies it to the top so we don't have a new thread started about this topic every few weeks.

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Suggestion: Someone make a master thread that deals with the topic of first credit cards, cc's for bachurim, building credit score etc and a moderator stickies it to the top so we don't have a new thread started about this topic every few hours.
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building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #471 on: July 31, 2012, 02:21:57 PM »
a point of info.

amex is known to backdate an AU's credit history to the account-opened-date of the main cardholder. meaning even if you have no credit history and added yourself as an AU, the account appears on your CR as opened when the main card-account was opened, thereby being a good idea for people who wanna build their credit.
however OFFICIALLY amex says this policy has changed since jan/12
[although they `might‘ still backdate if you ask them to.]

now the only option CMIIW, is by adding yourself as a joint card holder which also backdates automatically.
but AFAIK only BOFA has joint card accounts

note: there are other options. ie rent payments etc. but thats usually not within regular consumers reach. only via a credit repair company

edit: looks like Chase and discover also offer joint accounts. but I'm not sure how it is when talking about CR.
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Re: building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #472 on: July 31, 2012, 02:38:23 PM »
Don't almost all CC issuers backdate AU's? I think you missed the point of Amex backdating.  ;)
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« Reply #473 on: July 31, 2012, 02:41:30 PM »
Chase also does joint accounts.
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Re: Re: building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #474 on: July 31, 2012, 02:44:49 PM »
Don't almost all CC issuers backdate AU's? I think you missed the point of Amex backdating.  ;)
not that I am aware of. besides, with Chase, there was once a heavy discussion here how and what appears on CR when it comes to AU
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Re: Re: building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #475 on: July 31, 2012, 02:46:16 PM »
Chase also does joint accounts.
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Re: Re: building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #476 on: July 31, 2012, 02:46:28 PM »
not that I am aware of. besides, with Chase, there was once a heavy discussion here how and what appears on CR when it comes to AU
Citi, Chase and BOA all backdate the AU's card. Who does not?
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Re: building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #477 on: July 31, 2012, 02:51:58 PM »
I don’t want to steal your thunder because this is one of the most important techniques in credit building. Why is it so important to have Amex backdate an AU and no big deal for the other CC issuers?
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« Reply #478 on: July 31, 2012, 03:32:23 PM »
One difference between AmEx and other issuers is that every subsequent card to one's original card gets the original card's date of opening.
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Re: building-up credit history [with CC's]
« Reply #479 on: July 31, 2012, 03:35:55 PM »
One difference between AmEx and other issuers is that every subsequent card to one's original card gets the original card's date of opening.
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