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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #520 on: August 09, 2012, 10:45:53 PM »
The best and easiest way is, if your father has any Chase card to add yourself as a 'joint' not authorized user, sign the mailed forms and wait a few months.
Don't tell me they don't let you add. There isn't such a thing.
But of course make sure your dad don't spend more than 10-20% of his limit each month.

to be joint you need to have ur own credit history-just confirmed it....
Dad has great credit and pays off bills fully-not worried about that.

a secure credit card from where? WellsFargo/CapitalOne/Citi? which one will i be able to qualify for? (must have zero annual fee)

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #521 on: August 09, 2012, 10:47:20 PM »
anyone know the difference in terms of effecting your credit score if with chase you chose joint user or authorized user?

AU is less meaningful. when ur joint , at least to the best of my knowledge, they check your credit and u build credit as if it was ur own cc...

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #522 on: August 09, 2012, 10:49:30 PM »
yeah i"m 18 so that probably has what to do with it.
in my local store-the city trip will just have to wait...
 I said 15,000 dollars a year. it was a really sad moment lol. i never heard of anyone getting rejected either but i guess i'm just special that way :) will it effect my credit that i tried getting it??

good news is that i AM an authorized user on my Dad's CC-he was trying for a joint holder which didn't work... so is that enough to build my credit or should i try for a capital one card? which one?

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I think thats why they denied you. Thats way too little to get approved for any CC.
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Re: Re: Getting Started
« Reply #523 on: August 09, 2012, 10:58:59 PM »
I think thats why they denied you. Thats way too little to get approved for any CC.
+1. I would tell you to wait a bit and try again with the Target card. I have good experience with them. Also write at least 30k for your income..and as far as morals...most cc allow you to include support from family, stipends, etc in your total income. Besides IMHO every cc knows that the amount an applicant puts by annual income will be inflated..

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #524 on: August 09, 2012, 11:05:17 PM »
haha guys i'm wayy too innocent for this stuff... will it be a problem that my credit was checked? like that i was rejected? how long should i wait before applying again, to target or to Gap?
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #525 on: August 09, 2012, 11:23:03 PM »
1 application will not do much if at all to your score, if you do 3-4+ in a short period of time it may hurt you

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #526 on: August 09, 2012, 11:34:06 PM »
1 application will not do much if at all to your score, if you do 3-4+ in a short period of time it may hurt you

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #527 on: August 10, 2012, 12:12:44 AM »
anyone know the difference in terms of effecting your credit score if with chase you chose joint user or authorized user?
It terms of your FICO score they are treated the same way.
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« Reply #528 on: August 10, 2012, 12:13:52 AM »
Something that should be pointed out is that if you only have one account (AU or joint) you will not have a FICO score.
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #529 on: August 10, 2012, 12:28:14 AM »
Something that should be pointed out is that if you only have one account (AU or joint) you will not have a FICO score.
Really? When does someone get a fico score?
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« Reply #530 on: August 10, 2012, 12:38:29 AM »
Let me see if I can dig up some info on this. IIRC it is not the same for the big 3 (TU, EQ, EX).
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #531 on: August 10, 2012, 07:03:17 AM »
thanks

why cant u just be added onto any card as an AU, also when i was 18 and was going away with friends my father added me onto his account on spg (as my first card ever, and spg till today still regards me as a long time costumer - only 7 yrs but they still always say thanks for being an lon g standing costumer with us) and yes, go with target (plus its 5% back)

and my banker at chase told me when i signed up for the freedom last yr, he asked me whats my income, i said peter, i live off my parents, he said well how much do they make? i said ur there banker u tell ME, he said ok bec as long as u dont pay rent, or insurance and so on, then ur technically under them,
there was an argument awhile bak here on DDF if u can write what ur parents make as ur income,i think yes, esp if ur parents would pay off the bill if u max out! 
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #532 on: August 10, 2012, 09:41:57 AM »
And I'm going to say this again -and for the last time - you do NOT need to have any credit history or income to be added as a joint account holder with Chase.
And another point I'm saying her again: even though your FICO might increase if you are an autherized user on a card, most credit card issuer - especially Chase - don't care about it since you're not responsible to pay off the card's balance. Only joint will help.
I hope that's enough.
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #533 on: August 10, 2012, 09:52:07 AM »
Say it all you want but you are dead wrong on so many accounts.
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« Reply #534 on: August 10, 2012, 09:53:03 AM »
Specify?
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« Reply #536 on: August 10, 2012, 10:02:32 AM »
I have an hard time to differentiate between good and bad, but you well understand that we can't have an constructive and meaningful discussion without you specify what exactly you mean, but by posting blanket statements for someone trying to get help, you're just turning him away without any helpful idea.
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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #537 on: August 11, 2012, 10:53:24 PM »
And I'm going to say this again -and for the last time - you do NOT need to have any credit history or income to be added as a joint account holder with Chase.
And another point I'm saying her again: even though your FICO might increase if you are an autherized user on a card, most credit card issuer - especially Chase - don't care about it since you're not responsible to pay off the card's balance. Only joint will help.
I hope that's enough.

i spoke to the chase twice about this and they said your credit history gets checked. they may be wrong and u may be right but that still doesn't make it an option for me.
thanks for the help though

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #538 on: August 11, 2012, 11:04:17 PM »
All your father needs to do is login online and add an authorized user, just your name, and you will get a card in the mail. There is no point speaking to them on the phone, and whatever they told you is not true unless you were trying to add yourself as a Joint cardholder which is not an Authorized card holder.

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Re: Getting Started
« Reply #539 on: August 11, 2012, 11:41:10 PM »
All your father needs to do is login online and add an authorized user, just your name, and you will get a card in the mail. There is no point speaking to them on the phone, and whatever they told you is not true unless you were trying to add yourself as a Joint cardholder which is not an Authorized card holder.

I am an AU. meshuganer said i can beconme a joint account holder without any credit, which i confirmed is not true